Re: message MCH2804 'Tried to go larger than storage limit for object QPGMR'

[Bob Larkin <blarkin@xxxxxx>]

karl Liss wrote:
> 
> Anyone run into this?
> 
> We are receiving message MCH2804 'Tried to go larger than storage limit
> for object QPGMR'  on our model 310 running V3R2M0.  This message occurs
> whenever a user performs a function that attempts to create an object.
> The creation fails.
> 
> Our 310 is a development, not production, machine.  It has about 60G of
> dasd.  Most of the 150 usrprfs have a group profile of QPGMR with the
> group profile becoming the owner of any new objects created.  This was
> designed to avoid the nightmare of managing objects owned by 150
> different people.  All users typically need access to the objects
> created by the other users.  Additionally, the objects created are
> commonly restored to AS/400s owned by our clients.  Since QPGMR exists
> on all AS/400s we don't have to worry about object ownership converting
> to QDFTOWN at restore time.
> 
> Depending upon who we talk to at IBM we're told the message either has
> something to do with reaching a maximum number of entries in a usrprf
> table or reaching a maximum size for the usrprf object QPGMR.  They
> say we've reached an architectural limit of the operating system and
> no fix is planned.  Only solution offered is to change ownership of
> some objects to another user profile.
> 
> Any ideas?  How do the really large shops cope with this?  We'd like to
> keep our object management relatively simple.
Check the user profile, and make sure storage is set to *NOMAX.
This could also be related to an internal table that stores authority
information. Doc is at work, but as I reacall, the problem is as
follows:
Object authority is stored in a table in the owner's user profile space.
As number of objects grows, and/or number of authorities grows, this
space becomes consumed.

Now for the good part. As authorities are deleted or objects deleted,
the entries in the table are NOT reusable. The ONLY way (according to
IBM) to fix this is to "CRASH" the AS/400. During an IPL from an
abnormal shutdown, the space is rebuilt, allowing for more entries to be
added.

HTH 
-- 
Bob Larkin
Larkin Computer Consulting
blarkin@wt.net
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