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Hi Bob, Here we are again--finger-pointing forever. I have a couple situations at work that sound like the script you published here. One is a Dell laptop that works fine in a docking station connected to our Novell network. When I install CA95 it hangs at the network signon window. Take CA95 off, it works fine. I call the Family and get the 'not supported' crap (pardon me). I say, "The machine works fine without CA95. It hangs when CA95 goes on. It works fine again when CA96 is taken off. Duh! What's different?" Recently one of our people heard, at an IBM presentation here, that IBM was no longer in the finger-pointing game. My experience is that the CA people haven't heard the message yet. I'd mentioned to you another example here-a PC on which I wanted to install only the ODBC driver. It turns out that you cannot put on only the driver, you have to install the entire Base portion of CA95. (Shout to follow) THIS REALLY STINKS! (I'm calm now). And when I install CA95 on this machine, it locks up, again around the network signon window, not allowing password entry. Again, what's different here? CA support will gladly tell you to arrange for a ConsultLine contract, and IF the problem turns out to be CA, we don;t have to pay for it. THIS ALSO STINKS, IMO. (Oops, lost it again-sorry) I've put this on the list, 'cuz the more that hear it, maybe the more IBM will do something--I hope. To repeat, it is not possible to install only the ODBC driver, without the entire Base portion of CA. CA is the only ODBC provider that works this way, AFAIK. It _is_ a good driver, but this restriction is really frustrating. Cheers Vernon Hamberg Systems Software Programmer Old Republic National Title Insurance Company 400 Second Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55401 (612) 371-1111 x480 +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com". | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MAJORDOMO@midrange.com | and specify 'unsubscribe MIDRANGE-L' in the body of your message. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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