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Al, Knowing that the only IBM'ers on this list are the good guys (ie. not the ones who need to hear the message about marketing) maybe you could post an e-mail address or two of some of the Ostriches who need to have this message reinforced, and everyone one the list (especially - but not exclusively - those who can identify themselves as Customers and not Business Partners) could try to enlighten them. Maybe then they'll start to understand it's not just you and a couple of BP's bitching (although is there a hidden message there that they don't give a damn if it's ONLY BP's who are complaining ?). :-( Al Barsa, Jr. wrote: < snip > > Well, as it turns out, Rochester is very upset about what I said about > marketing. (I did not blind-side them about this fact, they knew > in advance.) In fact there is a broad tradition of IBM being unhappy > about > what I say at Soundoff. The last time they were unhappy, I was > complaining > about V3R1 quality. (20/20 hindsight being what it is, I probably > shouldn't have used the word 'sucks'.) > > I spoke about the effectiveness of AS/400 marketing, Bob Tipton spoke > about > it, and the audience applauded robustly and lengthy for each of us, as > they > did for the others that followed us. In fact, this is documented in > IBM's > internal minutes from Soundoff. > > Personally, I've taken a lot of heat from Rochester. When I attended > the > Rochester Summit (a Business Partner event) two weeks ago, an IBM VP > attempted to perform rectal surgery on me (a polite way of saying... - > something better done by the Mayo clinic). > > Now, the IBM spin doctors are saying that it was non-customers who > were > complaining, not customers. Let me say once and for all, the AS/400 > Division has a communications problem. I hear it every day from my > customers, and from AS/400 users throughout the world. IBM would like > you > to feel that this is a Business Partner issue, however this is a > diversionary tactic. This is the equivalent of putting their heads in > the > sand. (You would need a big desert, *SAHARA.) > > The AS/400 is the best computer platform in the world, and the AS/400 > is > IBM's best kept corporate secret. (After all, Microsoft uses it! Not > to > mention a wealth of other technology firms like Gateway 2000, Packard > Bell, > COMP USA and Nintendo.) We (AS/400 Divison, IBM BPs and AS/400 users) > are > ineffective at communicating this message to the general public. > > If you hear this response from an IBM spin doctor, please set them > straight. > > Al > > PS: This message has been blind copied to the appropriate people at > IBM. > I purposely decided to not list them to avoid them being bothered. > I've > bothered them enough recently. Right - YOU'VE bothered them enough already, now it's our turn. Who are they ? > > PPS: An IBM exec asked me to take the word 'bullshit' out of this > memo, and > I was happy to oblige. Maybe we could have a contest to see who can guess where the word belongs ? (Maybe Rochester would like to donate a prize ?). :-) -- ... Neil Palmer AS/400~~~~~ ... NxTrend Technology -Canada ____________ ___ ~ ... Thornhill, Ontario, Canada |OOOOOOOOOO| ________ o|__||= ... Phone: (905) 731-9079 x238 |__________|_|______|_|______) ... url:http://www.NxTrend.com oo oo oo oo OOOo=o\ ... mailto:NPalmer@NxTrend.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to "MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com". | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MAJORDOMO@midrange.com | and specify 'unsubscribe MIDRANGE-L' in the body of your message. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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