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Would you guys like some cheese and crackers with that "wine" ? Ducking, running, scarmbling, DIVING for cover - JUST KIDDING !!!! Chuck DAsmussen@aol.com wrote: > Hank, > > In a message dated 98-11-16 02:31:23 EST, you write: > > <<snip>> > > One of the things that was pointed out to me was that the high salaries they > > were paying for the contract coders was making the regular staff jealous, > so > > they felt justified in giving the new people poorer conditions to work in. > > Errr, Errrrrrr, ERRRRR! Numero uno problemo mis amigo -- the existing staff > should _NEVER_ know what your people are making!!! In the first place, it's > none of their %$##@&* business (do they know what their co-workers make?). In > the second, it undermines your ability to work effectively with the in-house > staff. The latter arrangement (in those rare instances in which they're not > completely worthless) can save both you and your client _TONS_ of time and > money. Whoever "let the cat out of the bag" regarding your compensation > should be taken out and flogged, regardless of whether they worked for you or > the client. Even if you want them, you cannot ethically hire any member of a > client's staff, so what good does it do for them to know your billing rate? > > While I'm personally opposed to our industry working at any one site for more > than a few months, I'm also opposed to employers that subsidize worthless > employees with our services instead of giving a deserving employee a perm job. > We definitely fill a need for "one-time" jobs like Y2K or mentoring staff on a > new application/platform, but for the love of Pete just "toast" people that > refuse to work or learn new methodologies. > > > My reply was that I was there to bring the project in on-time, under- > budget, > > and with a very high level of quality. The quality of the workplace would > > reflect the quality of our production. If they want junk work, write it > into > > the contract, and we'll deliver it in the junk environment. > > > > Funny thing is, the manager that I fought this battle with - he's one of my > > best references. > > And they always will be. Don't ask for more than the "real" employees get > (like the "Big 5" do), but don't accept less, either. Managers respect > someone that will stand up for their people, especially if they do the same > for theirs. If you walk in with the "I can help you" attitude instead of the > "I'm better than you" attitude, you'll win friends and influence people. > Otherwise, you can watch the client switch between the other "Big 5" as each > one proves worthless... > > JMHO, > > Dean Asmussen > Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc. > Fuquay-Varina, NC USA > E-Mail: DAsmussen@aol.com > > "If you had to identify, in one word, the reason the human race has not > achieved, and never will achieve, its full potential, that word would be > 'meetings'". -- Dave Barry > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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