Re: Web/Application Server -- MIDRANGE-L

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Bleddyn Williams wrote:

> Gary come take a look at http://www.ignite400.org lots of questions and
> answers on all the web issues surrounding the 400. We also have samples of
> code that can be used to get you started, and articles on the various
> aspects of what's hot and what's not in the 400 I*net world.
>
> The WebSphere support is currently a little behind V2 is out any time soon
> via PTF, and you really only need the advanced version of you are building
> total applications to make use of the EJB's most people don't. The HTTP
> server that is built into the AS/400 is just as good as any other webserver
> out there, don't be fooled by a lot of hype you want good functionality fast
> response and total integration then take a look at it. Things like Apache on
> the 400 just have not taken of plus right now it is far from being
> integrated and easy to configure. Also don't believe that Domino can do
> everything it cant if you want to build web application support go for
> what's built in Domino is a great GroupWare product. If you want a web front
> end fine use it, if not go for true webservers and the supported development
> environments.
>
> Thanks
> Bleddyn
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Gary L Peskin
> Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 08:53
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Web/Application Server
>
> I'm in a quandry and I'd like some opinions.
>
> I'm looking at starting up a new venture which will support a web site
> which has a potentially huge number of visitors and a significant number
> of queries against a very large database.  Since I'm a /400 person, I
> naturally gravitate toward the 400, particularly in light of the recent
> e-business enhancements.
>
> In this application, we're not anticipating any applets since these are
> blocked by too many sites.  We'll just be delivering HTML pages,
> possibly containing JavaScript.  I'd like to have the option to use JSP
> to create the pages, if I decide to go that down the road.
>
> However, it seems to me that as far as web serving and application
> serving (ie WebSphere), that the 400 is just not keeping up with the
> pace.  The WebSphere releases on the 400 always seem to be a few
> releases behind.  For example, WebSphere on the 400 only offers Standard
> Edition 1.1.  On AIX or NT, I have three editions to choose from:
> Standard, Advanced, and Enterprise, all at v2.02.  I expect the majority
> of the actual code to be in the form of java servlets and/or EJBs.  I'd
> like to have the latest features available.
>
> I'm anticipating a lot of traffic but I don't have something like the
> WebSphere Performance Pack available on the 400 to handle load balancing
> and serious management reporting.  This would require some other
> platform.
>
> In addition, WebSphere on the other platforms supports a wide variety of
> HTTP servers whereas I have only the one (or maybe a few) choices on the
> 400.  I don't like being dependent on a single vendor for an HTTP server
> like I basically am on the 400.
>
> >From perusing the newsgroups, it seems to me that WebSphere on the 400
> is definitely not as popular as it is on the other platforms.  To me,
> less popularity equals less support.  It means that I don't have as many
> allies when I have a problem and there isn't as big an incentive on
> IBM's part to fix the problem.
>
> Now, I can't imagine running a serious business while relying on NT or
> Windows 2000, whenever it appears.  I just don't think I could afford
> all of the rebooting time and limited debugging and troubleshooting
> facilities.  Not to mention the dearth of Microsoft support.
>
> That leaves AIX or some other UNIX flavor.  However, if I want to have a
> high powered database, I guess I'd been looking to Oracle, DB2 UDB, or
> one of the competitors.  Or, I could use the AIX box(es) for HTTP and
> application serving and use the 400 as a database machine.
>
> So, my bottom line questions are:
> (a) does anyone see the 400 coming up to a point where it offers
> facilities at least comparable to the AIX / NT world and possibly
> surpassing them,
> (b) is there some advantage to using AS/400s in a mixed RS/6000 - AS/400
> shop with AS/400 doing the database serving or am I better off just
> getting DB2 on an RS/6000 box?  I don't like the thought of maintaining
> two operating systems unless there's a clear benefit.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Gary L Peskin
> The Firstech Corporation
> +1.323.658.1146
> http://www.simdate.com
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