Re: Sales Pitches

[Patrick Townsend <townsend@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with David. We are one of those vendors who occasionally respond
to requests for information. I try to keep it simple and to the point. I
also try to give information for those who want to create their own
solutions. We've also benefited ourselves from vendors posting here - I
hate to think how much time we would have spent creating CD build
software. Instead we picked up a package for about $200 that works like
a champ. 

Patrick
-- 
IBM AS/400 communications, FTP automation, and network security
software and consulting services.

http://www.patownsend.com

David Gibbs wrote:
> 
> > David, I think you're being naive, or generous, or both. You're
> > allowing vendors to do business on this list at no cost. Fine,
> > but as a consumer of this list, with limited time to read through
> > the enormous volumes, these advertisment sales pitches add to the
> > already crowded terrain.
> 
> Maybe I am being naive... I like to think that I'm also being
> generous.
> 
> This list is about FINDING solutions to problems ... not GIVING
> solutions.  If someone has a problem they need to solve, they post
> the appropriate question ... others post solutions.  That solution
> can be a programming technique, IBM licensed product, or a vendors
> product... it does not really mater.  The majority of the vendors
> on this list DO NOT simply hawk their wares... they respond to specific
> messages where their solution would fit.  For example: Al Barsa
> doesn't spout off messages announcing how great TAA Tools are and
> how everyone should buy them... he responds to a message where
> someone has expressed a need to do something that his product can do.
> 
> Announcing your availability to work is not solving a specific
> problem... you're advertising your own consulting / contracting
> services without any solicitation.
> 
> > Yet, when I once simply posted my
> > availability for work on a similar list as this one (JD Edwards),
> > I was told that's a no-no. I thought that there might be MIS
> > Directors or managers who would get in contact.  On the JD
> > Edwards list btw, you see almost no touting of products, maybe 5%
> > of what you see on Midrange-L.
> 
> As for comparing this list to the JDEdwards list (a fine list, btw)
> you're comparing citrus fruit to apples.  MIDRANGE-L simply covers
> a much larger gammut of topics... so there will be more problems to
> solve, and more solutions to those problems.
> 
> david
> 
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