• Subject: RE: Windows BSOD vs. AS/400
  • From: neilp@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:47:45 -0400


(BTW, bringing up V3R1, the black stain of OS/400 releases, is a low blow!)

"low blow" ?   Funny - I thought "sucks" was the official term for V3R1 !
:-)






"M. Lazarus" <mlazarus@ttec.com>@midrange.com on 2000/08/01 13:01:41

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Subject:  RE: Windows BSOD vs. AS/400


Dave,

At 8/1/00 08:54 AM -0400, you wrote:
It isn't as simple as Microsoft unilaterally
defining Windows API's - many of the hardware interfaces are _below_ the OS
level, and naturally when you have multiple manufacturers defining and
interpreting such interfaces you get huge opportunities for mismatches.
�OK, maybe I was oversimplifying it somewhat.� I was trying to make a
point; we are being too excusing of Windows' shortcomings in a real
production environment. I'm familiar w/ many of the hardware / driver
issues, since I've worked w/ PC's since 1983.� If we waited until API's
came out for everything (even on the /400) innovation would be stifled.


Could Windows protect itself better?� Of course - consider that NT/2000
(and
the OS/2 design they're based on) handle these issues a lot more gracefully
than Win 95 and 98.
�That in itself proves that M$ could handle the reliability issues better.


� The OS/400 protection model is even better, but still
not perfect.� I had a machine down twice on V3R1 because of workstation
controller LIC issues.� Certainly OS/400 didn't crash, but just as
certainly
the machine was unavailable to the users and therefor nearly useless, just
as a Wintel machine with video driver problems would be.
�Ah, but here's a difference.� Were you able to get in via passthru or
Telnet or some other emulator?� Probably.� Which means that the machine is
still alive and you could apply patches, right?� Most importantly, you
could end jobs or start recovery far more gracefully than any PC hard
crash.� (BTW, bringing up V3R1, the black stain of OS/400 releases, is a
low blow!)� :-)


�-mark



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