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Nathan, <snip> The law is pretty clear that if the employee writes the program on his own time, using his own (or a timeshare) computer, and for the purpose of his own commercialization, then he owns the copyright - not the employer, regardless of the fact that his employment laid the foundation for the idea. </snip> This is where I am confused. I have always heard (from at least one attorney) that what you say is not the case. In the paper mill example, the employer would own the copyright without much question. And since the employee almost defiantly learned how a roll of paper is cut up from the employer, it is also a violation of any Non-Compete/Non-Disclosure agreement that they might have. A classic example would be the guy who invented Post It Notes. Legend says he was an employee of Dow Chemical (or is Dupont?) and it was done on his own time and equipment. But Dow owns the patent. Dow made the guy wealthy, but they did not have to (legally anyway. Morally, they did the right thing). Assuming that we are both correct, and that there truly is some ambiguities in the law (surprise surprise!), then another factor that need to be remember is who can afford to litigate? The employer surely has much deeper pockets. So, I go back to my original premise of honesty & openness. Sure, you might get screwed. But, if this paper mill programmer does everything in secrecy, it is automatically suspicious and he/she almost guarantee's a bad reaction from the company. Another thing that should not be forgotten: There is a HUGE difference between "what the law is" and "what the right thing is". But, I am NOT a lawyer and before I ever made any move in the above situations, you can bet that I would consult one. You also hint in your last paragraph that you have some personal experience in the above. Care to elaborate? Regards, Bob Crothers +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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