• Subject: Re: backups on AS/400; part2
  • From: Neil Palmer <neilp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:12:00 -0400

Not the only problem.  When you start any subsystem you are no longer in a 
restricted state, so you're caught there too.
(Starting any subsystem will also start subsystem QSYSWRK).

...Neil





"Eric Graeb" <egraeb@home.com>
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2001/05/28 19:11
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The only problem with this is the SAVSYS command must be run from an
interactive job.

Eric Graeb
System Operations

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Damato" <jdamato@dollargeneral.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 1:19 PM
Subject: RE: backups on AS/400; part2


>
> I'm treading on thin ice here since I've always worked in shops with
> 24x7 operations...
>
> The last time I retrieved the source for the GO SAVE option 21 it
> consisted of:
>
> SAVSYS
> SAVLIB *NONSYS
> SAVDLO
> SAV
>
> Couldn't you create a batch subsystem "SPARKy" with it's own jobd, jobq,
> etc. and create a backup script to be run from the console?  You'd bring
> the system to it's restricted state then bring up only subsystem SPARKY
> and submit a CL to SPARKY's queue that would run the equivalent of the
> save option 21.  The last steps in the CL would be to bring bring down
> SPARKY and bring up the whole system.  Once submitted you could sign off
> and go home.
>
> I'm sure I'm oversimplifying.  The one weak link has got to be "bring
> the system to it's restricted state then bring up only subsystem
> SPARKY", since I'm unsure if you could start that subsystem from the
> restricted state.  If I still had a spare AS/400 to play with I'd try to
> work out how to bring the system from a restricted state to a "minimally
> unrestricted state" with no TCP/IP, network services, interactive
> subsystem, QSPL, etc -- just SPARKY.  Perhaps you could code your system
> startup script to conditionally bypass bringing up most of the good
> stuff based on a mode bit or flag in a data area.  Then you would either
> start QCTL in backup mode or normal mode.
>
> We're at the point where we need to gut the Save option 21 anyway.  It
> takes too long with all our data.  I'm gonna have to figure out if I
> really know what I'm talking about so that I can split the SAVLIB
> *NONSYS into two batch streams to two 3590 tape drives.
>
> I'll let you know if it's easy, or if it's Advanced AS/400 System
> Administration.
>
> -Jim
>
> Manager - Technical Administration
> Dollar General Corporation
> <mailto:jdamato@dollargeneral.com>
>




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