RE: Subject: cgi on a Bumblebee -- MIDRANGE-L

Nathan,

The performance of a non-Domino workload on a Bumblebee is not really a
technical issue, despite the similarities in workload.  IBM has tweaked
the system to allow work originating within Domino to utilize the entire
processor while other work will tank the system if it exceeds a certain
per cent of processor capacity.  I have tried to run non-Domino
workloads on a Bumblebee and buried the system rather quickly.

The URL below points to an IBM white paper which describes some of the
characteristics of jobs which will perform well on the Bumblebee.  Your
CGI programs may be allowed but the only way to be assured of this would
be a benchmark on an actual system.

http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/domino/pdf/dsdworkloads.pdf

The Bumblebee systems were not introduced because of the poor
performance on traditional systems.  They have taken the more powerful
systems, given them a lower price, and called them a Dedicated Server
for Domino.  This allows IBM to compete with the Microsoft/Intel
platform in the Domino arena.  The tweaking is necessary so that you
don't use the system outside of the arena in which IBM wants to compete.

This is really a marketing thing and provides excellent value for
Domino/AS400 users.  In a way, this is the same issue as the Server vs.
5250 performance values and their respective prices.

My opinion anyway,
Andy Nolen-Parkhouse
IBM Specialist - Domino R5 for AS/400
IBM Solutions Expert - iSeries 400 Technology


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]
> On Behalf Of Nathan M. Andelin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 11:23 AM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Subject: cgi on a Bumblebee
> 
> Jim,
> 
> This is something I have wished I knew, but never took the opportunity
to
> ask.  I've thought about it a lot.  But it would be great if someone
were
> able to share their experience of running non-Domino, batch programs -
> like
> CGI on a Bumblebee server.  I've read that the Bumblebee servers were
> introduced in response to the poor performance of Domino on
traditional
> systems.  And there are a lot of similarities between Domino and Web
> applications.  So why wouldn't Web applications run great on a Domino
box?
> 
> Domino and Web applications are more CPU intensive than 5250.  The
> Bumblebee
> server you asked about (270-2422) has a 400 Mhz Pulsar CPU.  Not too
long
> ago, Joe Pluta and I compared the performance of his 270-2250 to my
170-
> 2290
> at running a CPU intensive benchmark.  His box ran the program 17
times
> faster than mine.  His system apparently has the same 400 Mhz Pulsar
CPU
> in
> the Bumblebee 270-2422 you referred to, so it would perplex me if the
> Bumblebee server didn't provide high performance for CGI.
> 
> But I don't know.  Can you run a test?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nathan.
> 
> > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:49:24 -0400
> > From: "Jim Franz" <franz400@triad.rr.com>
> > Subject: cgi on a Bumblebee
> >
> > Can a Bumblebee server (270-2422) be used for rpg/cgi?
> > Have a site with this 270 for email (200 users) and a separate
> > older system. They would like a small e-commerce site, hoping
> > not to upgrade the older application box. I have reservation
about=20
> > a 50 cpw bumblebee running rpg/cgi. Can it?
> > jim franz
> 
> 
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