Re: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures -- MIDRANGE-L

Jim,

   In these cases I personally did ALL the option 5 pieces as you
suspect. We did add several new pieces (JDK 1.3 for example and all of
WDS but this is common to All my upgrades)

   In each case they were V4R5 to V5R1 upgrades.
   In each case the failures occured:
        on dual processor 820's
        with minimum of 2G memory
        each with 42 drives
        each with at least 50G free disk

   Recovery did not require even an IPL. As soon as the LPP install
section completes (where PTFs would normally be applied) simply take
option 11 on LICPGM, select the failed pgms, and reload all the CDs.
THEN move on the the PTFs.

   I think Al is onto something with the multi-tasking of the LPP
install. This is absolutely an improvement over the single threaded
model used years ago but certainly has to be more complicated to manage
especially on these faster machines. On each of the systems where I
experienced the failures the list of programs being loaded concurrently
was off the bottom of the screen at the point of failure. All my prior
upgrades were single CPU systems with much smaller memory and disk
configuratoins.

   - Larry

Jim Franz wrote:

> Larry (and others who have failed in this way),
> could you describe your environment a little better?
> I searched ptfs for "extended base". Almost all related to either  Java
> database access
> or Management Central. If this extended base directory support includes
> data,
> perhaps your 4.4 or 4.5 machine had something corrupted prior to conversion
> (a wild guess).
> But it does sound like the manual ipl cleaned up the problem, which then
> allowed you to complete
> the install.
> Can you say that all the "Prepare to Install" options were done, including
> Cleanup options and
> Verify Integrity of System Objects? (don't doubt that you did them, but
> looking for some
> pattern in all these problems). I have several V4R5-V5R1 upgrades to do
> soon.
>
> jim franz
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Shaw" <mshaw@ncal.verio.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures
>
>
>
>>Larry,
>>
>>I just did a V4R4 to V5R1 on a Model 720 on Thursday.  The pre-install
>>
> stuff
>
>>ran fine, but the install failed.  I wound up calling the support center
>>
> to
>
>>get it going again.....Wound up having to abort the automatic installation
>>and install the licensed program products manually.
>>
>>From the call and the install job log, it appears that something happened
>>with the install of OS/400 Optional Part 3 (Extended Directory Support).
>>From there, the system hung and nothing happened.
>>
>>The workaround was to go to manual mode and force the system to do an IPL.
>>
>>Once IPL'ed to the B side in normal mode, I used Option 11 on the LICPGM
>>menu to load all the products that were flagged as *ERROR or *BACKLEVEL.
>>Once those were on, I went and got the stuff that was set in the Install
>>List so that I had everything.
>>
>>From there it was on to the CUME, HIPER Group PTF's, and DB2 Group PTF's.
>>
>>You are not alone, I know of a 730 that had the same
>>
> problem...........From
>
>>what we concluded looking at the install job log,  something happened
>>installing Optional Part 3 of OS/400......I have had the same problem with
>>installs at V4R5 and V5R1 just as you have.
>>
>>Keep me in the loop if you get more info.  I'll do the same........
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Mike Shaw
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Larry Bolhuis" <lbolhuis@arbsol.com>
>>To: "Midrange Systems Mailing List" <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
>>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:17 PM
>>Subject: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures
>>
>>
>>
>>>Greetings to the highly intelligent Midrange community.
>>>
>>>The last two V4R5 to V5R1 upgrades that I have done have each failed to
>>>install at least a dozen program products. I didn't keep the lists but
>>>in each case they were smattered all over from pieces of SS1 all the way
>>>  to XE1. In each case history log messages indicated the products were
>>>not copied from the media. LICPGM Option 5-prepare for install- had
>>>successfully located these products.  After failing during the initial
>>>install the use of option 11-install licensed programs for each of the
>>>failed programs successfully loads them no problem.
>>>
>>>Both of these upgrades were dual processor 820 machines with lots of
>>>memory and disk.
>>>
>>>Nothing in the archives, or on the iSeries pages.
>>>
>>>Thoughts? Similar experiences? I'm full of ****?
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>
>>>    - Larry.
>>>
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