Re: DDS Screens To Java -- MIDRANGE-L

Yeah, I always thought Citrix clients were thin clients. The app runs on
the server, the screens only are sent to the PC - do we have 5250  here
in graphical form  ;-)

rob@dekko.com wrote:
>
> Let me confuse the issue about MS Word.  Let's suppose you loaded it on to
> your Citrix server and accessed it with a Citrix client...
>
> This would be one way of easing the pain of installing upgrades to new
> versions of the client - use Citrix.
>
> Rob Berendt
> --
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> Benjamin Franklin
>
>                     Vernon Hamberg
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> Swing is the more recent and preferred (I think) graphical interface for
> Java.
>
> A thick client is one where the applications reside on the client.
> Things like M$ Word might use data on a server but the program is
> installed completely on the client and runs there.
>
> A thin client is one where the applications reside elsewhere. Some of
> them get downloaded as needed but are never stored on the client.
> Portions of applications will also run on the server, rather than the
> client.
>
> I think :-)
>
> Dan Bale wrote:
> >
> > Umm, please explain "Swing interface" and "thick client"  (I know Windoze
> is
> > "thick", as in "thick in the skull", is this the "thick" you're speaking
> of?
> > <g>)
> >
> > - Dan Bale
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> > [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Joe Pluta
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:23 PM
> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Subject: RE: DDS Screens To Java
> >
> > > From: Hall, Philip
> > >
> > > Although this route doesn't create 'Java screens', it generates
> > > HTML on the
> > > fly and caching seems to be non-existent...
> > >
> > > BTW: Java screens in my book would be a (JFC)Swing interface.
> >
> > That's an important point, Phil.  A "Java" screen to my mind is a
> > thick-client Swing application running on the PC, as opposed to an HTML
> > interface running in a browser.
> >
> > The other issue is whether you actually convert the RPG programs to Java.
> > Currently, all commercial solutions that I am familiar with leave the
> > application written in RPG.  They either modify the application to use a
> > different interface, or screen scrape the 5250 data stream.  The former
> > reduces your interactive requirement, the latter requires no modification
> to
> > the code.
> >
> > There are several HTML vendors (myself included).  A commercial
> conversion
> > to HTML using one of these tools currently starts at around $20,000,
> > depending on the size of the application and the size of the box.  There
> is
> > also a variable amount of consulting required.  The RPG programs stay as
> RPG
> > programs, but the interface is HTML.  Some of these are screen scrape
> > solutions, some use program modification.
> >
> > There are also a couple of thick client vendors.  The last I heard,
> Jacada
> > has both a screen scraper and a program modification interface to thick
> > screens.  Linoma Logic (whom I partner with) provides a product/service
> > offering designed to help you move your applications to a client/server
> > architecture that supports a thick-screen interface.
> >
> > The other options are to roll your own, using e-RPG (Brad's technique),
> > e-deployment (my technique), or Nathan's relational data framework.
> > Nathan's is the only one with a license fee, but his is the most complete
> of
> > the three.  Both e-RPG and e-deployment are more of a technology concept
> > than a product.
> >
> > Joe
> >
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> Ergo
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Would you like to see a challenging little arithmetic puzzle
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in math? Go to <http://cgi.wff-n-proof.com/MSQ-Ind/I-1E.htm>

Sillygism--

Something is better than nothing.
Nothing is better than a ham sandwich.
Ergo
Something is better than a ham sandwich.