Re: VPN server -- MIDRANGE-L

PacBell/SBC sells a SDSL service that supposedly has static IP addresses
which is a requirement of VPN.  After screwing around with PacBell/SBC for 3
months they finally admitted that they don't really have real static IP
addresses.  Talk about confusing.  You must have a real presence on the
Internet with a static IP address.  Cvad does supply real static IP's.
Ironically, PacBell/SBC contracted with Covad for the fake static IP so go
figure.  If you want to use PacBell/SBC be sure to check out the
fuckpacbell.com web site first.  It's there for a reason.

Jerry


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Richter" <srichter@autocoder.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:19 PM
Subject: RE: VPN server


> Is there a technical reason for the success of vpn depending on if the ISP
> supports it ?
>
> Isnt VPN traffic just encapsulated IP data that is routed thru the
internet
> just like any other IP data packet and will be materialized at the
receiving
> end ?
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Steve Richter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Jim Franz
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:11 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: VPN server
>
>
> I would verify with the dsl provider that they "fully support" what you
are
> doing with the
> equipment you are doing it with.
> Our network guy asked BellSouth if we could install the cheaper dsl
> connection at a remote site in Miami, FL.
> They said yes.
> He asked - can we run VPN
> They said yes.
> He flew to Miami to install - didn't work!
> Asked BellSouth why.
> Answer - we support vpn on "our supplied routers", not your Cisco
> routers-you didn't ask us that!
> (and our routers don't support your Cisco vpn!)
> Morale of this story - Verify the entire setup - routers, firewall, ports
> for traffic, etc.
> jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Bipes" <chris.bipes@cross-check.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:50 PM
> Subject: RE: VPN server
>
>
> > Well DSL is FAST in ONE direction.  Though the upload speed is 128K or
> that
> > of the ISDN line.  VPN does add lots of overhead to your network
traffic.
> I
> > find DSL to be very reliable.  Brand new installation was only down
twice
> in
> > the first year and has been rock solid for the last 6 months.  I would
say
> > our T1 dies about once a year, well we just changed ISPs so we will see.
> If
> > the branch offices currently have internet access or need access, VPN
> would
> > be the way to go.  Private FR is more secure with PtoP leased lines the
> most
> > secure you can get and be connected 24x7.  I would put DSL at one
location
> > and see how it works with VPN and add locations one at a time.
> >
> >
> > Good Luck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Richter [mailto:srichter@autocoder.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:19 PM
> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> > Subject: RE: VPN server
> >
> >
> > Our current topology is frame relay, cisco routers, T1 from central
office
> > to the frame cloud, branch offices use expensive and slow 64kb/128kb
> > connections to the cloud.
> >
> > Any thoughts on replacing the cloud with router to router vpn over the
> > internet ?
> >
> > Esp where less expensive, higher speed DSL is used to connect the remote
> > branches to the internet.
> >
> > Is DSL too unreliable for business use ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steve Richter
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