>>It has been a VERY LONG TIME since PWRDWNSYS had *PUBLIC *USE
authority.  >>It was that way on S/38 CPF 8.0 and possibly for early
OS/400 releases but >>IBM have shipped PWRDWNSYS with severe
restrictions for a very long time

Your right Simon, I did not realize that, thanks for pointing that out
to me!

Justin
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From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
[mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Simon Coulter
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:40 PM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Re: PWRDWNSYS - Trivia


Hello Justin,

You wrote:
>... First of all I would strip all authority from the PWRDWNSYS command
so
>that only QSECOFR could issue the command ...

I'm not picking on you specifically.  You were just the first to make
this
suggestion.

It has been a VERY LONG TIME since PWRDWNSYS had *PUBLIC *USE authority.
It
was that way on S/38 CPF 8.0 and possibly for early OS/400 releases but
IBM
have shipped PWRDWNSYS with severe restrictions for a very long time.

PWRDWNSYS is restricted to QSECOFR, any user with *ALLOBJ, and is
specifically authorised to QSYSOPR.  That's it!  Oh, the security
reference
also says you also need *JOBCTL before you can run it.  That's pretty
secure.

If your ordinary joe/janet users can run PWRDWNSYS then:

        a) Your users have far too much authority
        b) You are running at QSECURITY less than 30
        c) You run some crappy ERP system that requires users to have
*ALLOBJ and/or *JOBCTL -- think Just Don't Ever
        d) *PUBLIC have been specifically granted rights to PWRDWNSYS
        e) Your security officer is an idiot

in which case you get what you deserve.  IBM can't protect the fools
from
themselves.

P.S. IT Managers are the bane of Operations.  Someone recounted the
annecdote of one intending to prompt PWRDWNSYS but presssing Enter.  My
idiot manager pressed the Load button on the S/38 (because the IPL was
taking too long, or he liked the pretty colour of the Load button --
light
sky blue as I recall, or something equally lame).

We'd had a power failure, the system was on UPS, and had shutdown
normally.
I had dialled IPL on the rotary switches and had left it IPLing while I
popped out for something.  Foolishly, I had left the rotary switches
where
they were. Needless to say I always disabled the rotary switches
immediately
they had been used after that episode.

The same manager also switched off a 9332 drive to 'prove' checksum
worked
which resulted in me buying a set of perspex power switch covers.  He
thought the system would keep running.  Jeez!

Regards,
Simon Coulter.
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