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So, what you are saying is that any third-party vendor with a bloated sense of self importance could decide he needs a trifle more authority to make his software as effective as he'd like it to be, so he could quietly just take what ever he wants and no one would be the wiser? It isn't malware thats the serious problem, its egoware. These 3rd-party vendors have the know-how and resources to do just what you have laid out. If I've read you right this could become our own version of "DLL Hell"? Suddenly I feel this real cold draft blowing down my shirt collar. --------------------------------------------------------- Booth Martin http://www.MartinVT.com Booth@MartinVT.com --------------------------------------------------------- -------Original Message------- From: midrange-l@midrange.com Date: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 08:52:46 AM To: midrange-l@midrange.com Subject: Re: Fix Security (was: Paging file) You guys just won't see it. On AS/400 number one (yours) you have all the authority you need. You make a program (normal user state, no adoption of authority) and patch it to make it malware. Then recalculate the program validation value and save the program. Transfer the save file to another AS/400 (the one you are attacking) and restore the malware program. For this you need only enough authority to restore the program. You might charm the system operator or the user to restore it for you. Maybe it is a demo program that also does something useful and interesting. Once the program is restored (as it will with no problems as it is just a user state program; you can even sign it for that matter) you run it and now you are God on the other AS/400.
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