Re: Check this out. iSeries Access for Linux!!

["Adam Lang" <aalang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

According to 5.1 setup, the packages that require licensing are:

Data Transfer
5250 Display and Printer Emulator
All the additional fonts

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From: "Chris Whisonant" <Chris.Whisonant@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: Check this out. iSeries Access for Linux!!


> That's good to know.
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> About Data Transfer, if I try to create one to an iSeries that I don't
> have iSeries Access licenses for I get:
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> CWBLM0020
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> Cause
> The maximum number of available licenses for iSeries Access for Windows
> are currently in use.
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> >I don't know why they charge for emulator access other than to have a way
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> >to charge shops for each user accessing the system.
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> Last I heard, Rochester charges for emulator licenses because Rochester
> has
> to pay for emulator licenses. The emulator isn't an iSeries product, it
> some
> from Raleigh (if memory serves) and Rochester has to move internal "funny
> money" to Raleigh for the license. So to keep from showing a loss on the
> emulator they change a (nominal) fee.
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> The parts of Client Access that they write (file transfer, ops nav,
> odbc/oledb, etc.) they don't have to pay for and as such they don't charge
> a
> fee for.
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> Not necessarily. If you have an iSeries you always are able to install the
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> iSeries Access emulator. However, if you try to connect to an iSeries on
> which you haven't added licensing info. for iSeries Access you will be
> unable to connect through the iSeries Accesss emulator. Other 5250
> emulators will work fine without requiring licenses.
>
> I don't know why they charge for emulator access other than to have a way
> to charge shops for each user accessing the system. No biggie for some of
> my systems - I just don't pay for the licenses and can use iSeries
> Navigator and another emulator.
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> One other feature that is licensed is data transfer.
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> Chris Whisonant
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> So the one thing they normally charge for, they have available free?
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> They don't charge for the client software. However, to access a server
> using iSeries Access 5250 emulator you do have to have server licenses per
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> connecting user. Most, if not all, of the iSeries Navigator functions do
> not require licenses.
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> I think he express software they don't charge for, you jsut have to have
> licensing for certain functionality on the AS/400 end, right?
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> > As far as charging goes, that's a good question.  After all, what parts
> of
> > iSeries Access for Windows are no charge, and what part are chargeable
> > items?
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> > Rob Berendt
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> > Even if they decided to support SuSE and Turbo, there are still dozens
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> > Linux distros that they don't support.  Even if they made it work on
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> > Linux, it still wouldn't work on the BSDs, Solaris, OS X, etc, etc.
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> > I wish IBM would release these things as open source products!   Then,
> > none of these compatibilty issues would be a problem.   What does it
> gain
> > IBM to make their free software proprietary?   Why limit people if
> they're
> > not going to make money on it anyway?
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> > Or were they planning to charge for the Linux versions in the future?
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> > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Wills, Mike N. (TC) wrote:
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> > > We hadn't tried on any other platform yet, that isn't good that they
> are
> > > hard coding it. We where thinking they where developing it for all of
> > their
> > > supported distros (RedHat, Suse, and Turbo).
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