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You had a multipart question. I thought I'd help you with the part that I worked with and/or cared about. Let the software distributors talk about the other stuff. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 02/01/2005 02:40 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject RE: Using DVD-RAM drive I was speculating more about the image format and what you had to do to extract meaningful data off of it given that Vern had sugested downloading it to a PC. Granted, there are a few DVD-RAM drives available for PC's but the vast majority of PC's use +-R drives. Dave Parnin Nishikawa Standard Company Topeka, IN 46571 daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx rob@xxxxxxxxx Sent by: To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion midrange-l-bounces@m <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>@SMTP@CTB idrange.com cc: (bcc: David A Parnin/Topeka/NISCO/SPCO) Subject: RE: Using DVD-RAM drive 02/01/2005 02:17 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midrange .com> You can do the RST* family of commands from a DVD provided it was saved with the SAV* family of commands. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 02/01/2005 01:54 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject RE: Using DVD-RAM drive How does a DVD-RAM image compare to a CD image or a DVD +-R/RW? Does size matter? (insert your own joke here) I'm not familiar with DVD-RAM but DVD +-R is 4.5GB compared to the 650MB or 700MB for a CD. Also, archiving is one thing but if you want to restore it can you just drop it in the DVD drive on your iSeries and do a RST, RSTLIB, or RSTOBJ or do you have to move the image back into an image catalog before you can restore it? Dave Parnin Nishikawa Standard Company Topeka, IN 46571 daparnin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent by: To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion midrange-l-bounces@m <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>@SMTP@CTB idrange.com cc: (bcc: David A Parnin/Topeka/NISCO/SPCO) Subject: RE: Using DVD-RAM drive 02/01/2005 01:38 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@midrange .com> Charles If you are on V5R3 you can create an image catalog entry that is writable. This is in the IFS and acts like a writable optical device. The resulting image file can be downloaded to a PC and burnt there. It is bound to be much faster, although I've not tested this. You can even create multiple entries, and the SAV will span the optical images, just as it does on tape. These can be created at 650meg CD size, all the way down to 48meg, IIRC, and up to DVD sizes and larger. HTH Vern -------------- Original message -------------- > Rob, > > Yes, we hadn't intended to use the DVD for all backups. Just some monthly EOM > archiving that we do. > > Still, I was hoping for good enough performance to backup on the fly instead of > to save file first. > > Charles Wilt > iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer > Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America > ph: 513-573-4343 > fax: 513-398-1121 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 8:17 AM > > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > Subject: Re: Using DVD-RAM drive > > > > > > Our experiences were that the DVD is much slower than tape. And it > > doesn't hold all that much. The only items we save to DVD > > are some small > > backups of data before a new program change, or some EDI archiving. > > > > Rob Berendt > > -- > > Group Dekko Services, LLC > > Dept 01.073 > > PO Box 2000 > > Dock 108 > > 6928N 400E > > Kendallville, IN 46755 > > http://www.dekko.com > > > > > > > > > > > > "Wilt, Charles" > > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > 01/31/2005 05:11 PM > > Please respond to > > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > > > > > To > > "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion \(E-mail\)" > > > > cc > > > > Subject > > Using DVD-RAM drive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > Trying to make use of the new DVD-RAM drive I installed over > > the weekend. > > > > Found the INZOPT command...ran it and it completed > > successfully. Doing a > > WRKLNK '/QOPT/*' or a WRKOPTVOL shows my newly created volume. > > > > However, tried to do a SAVLIB LIB(LIB1 LIB2) and the job went > > into a EVTW > > status and never seemed to do anything. > > The job got a locks on a bunch of objects from both > > libraries, but didn't > > seem to be using any CPU. There was nothing in the joblog > > except for the > > save command. But the optical path name I specified on the > > SAVLIB command > > had been created on the DVD-RAM. > > > > > > So, I tried saving LIB1 to a save file and using SAVSAVFDTA > > to move it to > > the optical. The job is still running and shows an OPTW > > status. Again, > > nothing in the joblog but the save command and the job isn't > > using any > > CPU. > > > > > > Am I doing something wrong or is everything working and the > > DVD-RAM is > > just really, really, REALLY, slow? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Charles Wilt > > iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer > > Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America > > ph: 513-573-4343 > > fax: 513-398-1121 > > > > > > -- > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > > list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > -- > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > > (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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