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We actually use both FEU and Surveyor/400 - I hate to admit it because in some ways these tools do almost the same thing. From a historic perspective we chose FEU over DBU (this goes back 15 years or so) because our programmers felt that the products were very similar in functionality but that FEU was more SEU like and they felt more comfortable about it - no debate please - it was 15 years ago and the development staff here chose the product. I picked up Surveyor/400 about 5 years ago or so with the intent to GUI-ize our tools and expand the programmers arsenal of tools. Back then Surveyor/400 offered a lot of nice things over FEU, DBU, etc. At that time it wasn't so much to GUI-ize the environment but work towards a PC desktop type of application environment - code/400->WDSC, visual age, etc. At the time I think Surveyor/400 also had some more built in function than FEU (import/export/generate sql/ftp,IFS) etc. I do know that FEU has picked up a lot of that lately so the functional differences may not be that great. However, as I have mentioned in the past the attempt to move development off of the green screen has just died. Not a Surveyor/400 problem but we had stability issues, desktop performance issues, functionality issues, etc. And couple this with a departmental/company attitude of not altering the existing green screen applications to some sort of windows based environment......the whole thing kind of died. So green screen stuff is still green screen stuff but new applications go out in either Domino or WAS. It's mixed but based upon the companies priorities it will have to do. So, our developers still use and like FEU a lot. Personally I use Surveyor/400 and will try to pick another time to see if it makes sense to change. The cost for either product is not very much so I don't feel to guilty in doubling up. Nothing against the other products (remember the DBU comparison was made 15 years ago) but I can say we like both products. Michael Crump Manager, Computing Services Saint-Gobain Containers 1509 S. Macedonia Ave. Muncie, IN 47302 (765)741-7696 (765)741-7012 f (800)428-8642 "The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just" Abraham Lincoln
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