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John, Quick question, what type of hardware set up do you have that you're getting 275MB/s with an LTO3 drive connected to a 5702? Specifically, I'm wondering about CPU/RAM and Disk subsystem. As I run some test saves on a single rather large library, I'm seeing average disk usage going from an idle of 1% up to about 20% with a spike to 40%. I'm wondering if this is an indication that my disk subsystem is the bottleneck. I know that 40% is a magic number for disk utilization, but for the purpose of a save I expect disk utilization to be higher if it was the bottle neck. Thoughts? Thanks, Charles Wilt -- iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer Mitsubishi Electric Automotive America ph: 513-573-4343 fax: 513-398-1121 > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jones, John (US) > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 11:35 AM > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > Subject: RE: Determine bottlenecks during backup > > What kind of tape drive? > > The SCSI interface in this case is very likely not the > bottleneck; I've > got 5702s that are doing about 275MB/s (compressed) with LTO3 drives. > That leaves the potential bottlenecks as: > > 1. Tape drive. If LTO2 or LTO3, this should not be the bottleneck > unless the drive is malfunctioning or dirty. > 2. System bus. Could be the problem. Where is bus 28? If not in the > CEC, what type of tower? I had LTO2 drives on our former > 830; one on a > controller in the CEC and one in a migration tower (a former > 720 frame). > The drive on the controller in the CEC was significantly faster (more > than 2x) than the drive in the tower even though the drives themselves > were identical. > 3. System (CPU/RAM). This is probably not the bottleneck unless the > partition is RAM-constrained. > 4. Disk subsystem. > 5. Object type. Fewer-but-larger objects will save faster > than lots of > small objects. The more objects there are the higher the system > overhead. > 6. Save type. Turn on compression for the non-SAVSYS pieces; > you've got > plenty of CPU to handle it. > > Also, try to figure out which part of the 21 is taking a lot of time. > Is it IFS, NONSYS, SAVSYS, etc.? Easiest way is to look at > the job log > afterwards and look at the timestamps. > > John A. Jones, CISSP > Americas Information Security Officer > Jones Lang LaSalle, Inc. > V: +1-630-455-2787 F: +1-312-601-1782 > john.jones@xxxxxxxxxx > > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wilt, Charles > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:02 AM > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > Subject: Determine bottlenecks during backup > > All, > > I'm trying to evaluate the performance of our new backup system. > > The tape device is rated at 200 MB/s and is attached to an > 160MB/s 5702 > SCSI card. > > However, on my first test save menu option 21 save I saved 238.7 GB of > data (uncompressed) in about 90 minutes, a throughput of > about 45 MB/s. > > The iSeries is a model 810 with 2700CPW of which 87% (2349CPW) is > assigned to the primary partition being backed up. > > System bus 1 has a 2757 Controller card with 12x4326 RAIDed. Of those > 12 disks, the system ASP contains 10 disks, and a user ASP is > configured > with 2 disks. > > System bus 28 has the 5702 controller card. > > > How can I tell if the save is bottlenecked by CPU, disk, bus, or tape > device? > > Thanks, > > Charles Wilt > -- > iSeries Systems Administrator / Developer Mitsubishi Electric > Automotive > America > ph: 513-573-4343 > fax: 513-398-1121 > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, > unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, > please take a > moment to review the archives at > http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > This email is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the > sender immediately and then delete it. 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