Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem

["mlazarus@xxxxxxxx" <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx>]

Mark,

 That's a bit a kludge because IBM can easily change the location of this
job in a future release (abeit unlikely) and I think that it's possible to
disable the scheduler.  There *must* be a way to detect this at the
subsystem controlling job level.

 -mark

Original Message:
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From: Mark S. Waterbury mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:43:01 -0400
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem


Hi, Mark:

I issued a "WRKSBSJOB QCTL" on one of my machines, and
I can see in the "controlling" subsystem a job named QSYSSCD
running under user QPGMR and calling program QEZSCNEP ...

I think this is something to do with the OS/400 job scheduler
that comes with OS/400 (WRKJOBSCDE and friends ...)

I don't see that job name or program active in any of the other
subsystems ...

So, perhaps this might be one way you can 'tell' if this is in fact
the "controlling" subsystem, by looking to see if this job is active
in that subsystem?

Regards,

Mark S. Waterbury

----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:24 AM
> Subject: RE: Retrieving active controlling subsystem
>

> Scott,
>
> So far, that's the best suggestion I've received.  Now I'd like to take
> this a step further.
>
> We have a condition we call "partially restricted." In order to make our
> save-while-active backups less complicated, we shut down all subsystems
> that might lock objects in our nightly backup.  Once the ENDSBS command 
> has
> run it might take a little while for the subsystems to end.  So I'm 
> writing
> a utility to see if any subsystems are active that are not in a special
> "exempt list" and returning an "active" flag, so that the calling 
> procedure
> can wait and try again a little later.
>
> The controlling subsystem should not need to be in the exempt list, since
> it's always exempt. My problem is, if the active controlling subsystem 
> does
> not match the QCTLSBSD value I will not have a way to determine that it's
> OK to skip it.
>
> Since the ENDSBS knows to send CPF1053, the status must be somewhere.  Any
> ideas?
>
> -mark
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Ingvaldson, Scott SIngvaldson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:12:31 -0500
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Retrieving active controlling subsystem
>
>
> I'm not sure that you can end the controlling subsystem by itself.  When
> I do an ENDSBS SBS(QCTL) I get message CPF1053 -    Ending controlling
> subsystem QCTL not allowed.
>
> So if you RTVSYSVAL QCTLSBSD then an ENDSBS for the QCTLSBSD value you
> can monitor for CPF1053.  I'm not sure you even need to go that far, you
> can probably just start ending active subsystems and monitor for the
> CPF1053.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Ingvaldson
> iSeries System Administrator
> GuideOne Insurance Group
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:37:50 -0400
> from: "mlazarus@xxxxxxxx" <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx>
> subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem
>
> Mark,
>
> I'm looking for the "current active" controlling subsystem.  If I do a
> CHGSYSVAL QCTLSBSD, then I believe that the retrieve will not give me
> which one is currently active, rather which one *will* be active.
>
> -mark
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Mark S. Waterbury mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:03:52 -0400
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem
>
>
> RTVSYSVAL QCTLSBSD ?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem
>>
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> That code works (with modifications) to get the complete list of
>> subsystems.  It does not tell me which one is the controlling
> subsystem.
>>
>> -mark
>>
>> Original Message:
>> -----------------
>> From:  Michael_Schutte@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:14:27 -0400
>> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem
>>
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>> http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l/200304/msg00127.html
>>
>> You can specify the job name by replacing the
>>
>> '*ALL      *ALL      *ALL      '
>>
>> With what you want to look for.
>>
>> Michael Schutte
>> Work 614-492-7419
>> email  michael_schutte@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>> How would I go about retrieving the *active* controlling subsystem?
>> If the QCTLSBSD system value is changed, retrieving that value won't
>> reflect the current reality.
>>
>> I'm looking for this info becuase I want to automate an orderly
>> shutdown of active subsystems, but do not want to end the controlling
> *SBS.  TIA.
>>
>> -mark



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