Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem -- MIDRANGE-L

I Have The Answer - maybe. Get a list of the jobs of type SBS - these are the 
subsystem jobs. The one with the lowest job number is the controlling subsystem 
(cuz it has to have been the first one started) - unless the job numbers 
wrapped. Or use the job start date/time, of which there are a couple varieties 
- when entered the system, when became active, etc. You can use QUSLJOB to get 
only the subsystem monitor jobs and only the start info for them.

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "mlazarus@xxxxxxxx" <mlazarus@xxxxxxxx> 

> Mark, 
> 
> That's a bit a kludge because IBM can easily change the location of this 
> job in a future release (abeit unlikely) and I think that it's possible to 
> disable the scheduler. There *must* be a way to detect this at the 
> subsystem controlling job level. 
> 
> -mark 
> 
> Original Message: 
> ----------------- 
> From: Mark S. Waterbury mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxx 
> Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:43:01 -0400 
> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem 
> 
> 
> Hi, Mark: 
> 
> I issued a "WRKSBSJOB QCTL" on one of my machines, and 
> I can see in the "controlling" subsystem a job named QSYSSCD 
> running under user QPGMR and calling program QEZSCNEP ... 
> 
> I think this is something to do with the OS/400 job scheduler 
> that comes with OS/400 (WRKJOBSCDE and friends ...) 
> 
> I don't see that job name or program active in any of the other 
> subsystems ... 
> 
> So, perhaps this might be one way you can 'tell' if this is in fact 
> the "controlling" subsystem, by looking to see if this job is active 
> in that subsystem? 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Mark S. Waterbury 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:24 AM 
> > Subject: RE: Retrieving active controlling subsystem 
> > 
> 
> > Scott, 
> > 
> > So far, that's the best suggestion I've received. Now I'd like to take 
> > this a step further. 
> > 
> > We have a condition we call "partially restricted." In order to make our 
> > save-while-active backups less complicated, we shut down all subsystems 
> > that might lock objects in our nightly backup. Once the ENDSBS command 
> > has 
> > run it might take a little while for the subsystems to end. So I'm 
> > writing 
> > a utility to see if any subsystems are active that are not in a special 
> > "exempt list" and returning an "active" flag, so that the calling 
> > procedure 
> > can wait and try again a little later. 
> > 
> > The controlling subsystem should not need to be in the exempt list, since 
> > it's always exempt. My problem is, if the active controlling subsystem 
> > does 
> > not match the QCTLSBSD value I will not have a way to determine that it's 
> > OK to skip it. 
> > 
> > Since the ENDSBS knows to send CPF1053, the status must be somewhere. Any 
> > ideas? 
> > 
> > -mark 
> > 
> > Original Message: 
> > ----------------- 
> > From: Ingvaldson, Scott SIngvaldson@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:12:31 -0500 
> > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > Subject: RE: Retrieving active controlling subsystem 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm not sure that you can end the controlling subsystem by itself. When 
> > I do an ENDSBS SBS(QCTL) I get message CPF1053 - Ending controlling 
> > subsystem QCTL not allowed. 
> > 
> > So if you RTVSYSVAL QCTLSBSD then an ENDSBS for the QCTLSBSD value you 
> > can monitor for CPF1053. I'm not sure you even need to go that far, you 
> > can probably just start ending active subsystems and monitor for the 
> > CPF1053. 
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > 
> > Scott Ingvaldson 
> > iSeries System Administrator 
> > GuideOne Insurance Group 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:37:50 -0400 
> > from: "mlazarus@xxxxxxxx" 
> > subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem 
> > 
> > Mark, 
> > 
> > I'm looking for the "current active" controlling subsystem. If I do a 
> > CHGSYSVAL QCTLSBSD, then I believe that the retrieve will not give me 
> > which one is currently active, rather which one *will* be active. 
> > 
> > -mark 
> > 
> > Original Message: 
> > ----------------- 
> > From: Mark S. Waterbury mark.s.waterbury@xxxxxxx 
> > Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:03:52 -0400 
> > To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > Subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem 
> > 
> > 
> > RTVSYSVAL QCTLSBSD ? 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:36 PM 
> >> Subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem 
> >> 
> > 
> >> Michael, 
> >> 
> >> That code works (with modifications) to get the complete list of 
> >> subsystems. It does not tell me which one is the controlling 
> > subsystem. 
> >> 
> >> -mark 
> >> 
> >> Original Message: 
> >> ----------------- 
> >> From: Michael_Schutte@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:14:27 -0400 
> >> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> Subject: Re: Retrieving active controlling subsystem 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Does this help? 
> >> 
> >> http://archive.midrange.com/rpg400-l/200304/msg00127.html 
> >> 
> >> You can specify the job name by replacing the 
> >> 
> >> '*ALL *ALL *ALL ' 
> >> 
> >> With what you want to look for. 
> >> 
> >> Michael Schutte 
> >> Work 614-492-7419 
> >> email michael_schutte@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> >> 
> >> ---------------- 
> >> 
> >> How would I go about retrieving the *active* controlling subsystem? 
> >> If the QCTLSBSD system value is changed, retrieving that value won't 
> >> reflect the current reality. 
> >> 
> >> I'm looking for this info becuase I want to automate an orderly 
> >> shutdown of active subsystems, but do not want to end the controlling 
> > *SBS. TIA. 
> >> 
> >> -mark 
> 
> 
> 
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