I think the discussions fit just fine here also... I don't even monitor the
other list, and would bet many others don't either.  It's not nuts and
bolts technical, but this topic (especially the licensing portion) has a
bearing on system design and selection, which is a technical concern.
                                                                       
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I respectfully disagree. David can clobber me if required but
discussions about i5 pricing, licensing, etc DO fit here. They go to the
heard of the platform. If you disagree, which of the midrange lists
would you think this discussion best fits on?
And if you don't believe that IBM pays attention to what happens on this
list you would be wrong. Do they make corporate decisions based on out
rants and ramblings? Of course not. But the members of this group
constitute a valuable bank of opinion about System i and you can be sure
that IBM pays attention to what is said here.
  - Larry
Darrell A Martin wrote:
Hi:
Midrange-L is not my list to run. However, I feel the same way about
interminable discussions on this "Technical Discussion" list of:
  - why IBM's licensing is (stupid, justified, exquisite)
  - how to make sense of it
as I do about interminable discussions on this list about
  - why Microsoft's control over the small computer systems world is
(evil, unavoidable, exquisite)
  - how to use Linux, or Palm OS, or DR-DOS, to overcome it.
Anyone who thinks that IBM's key marketing decision-makers read this
list,
raise your hand. OK, I see a few hands. Now, anyone who thinks they make
significant decisions based on what is said on this list, raise all three
hands. Not you, Qxrtqaaqlmrx -- besides, those aren't hands.
Darrell
Darrell A. Martin  -  630-754-2141
Manager, Computer Operations
dmartin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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