RE: Another Midrange Forum Falls Over and Can't Get Up -- MIDRANGE-L

Hey Joe,
Are u serious??? And don't know, but comparing SSA from the 80's with Open Source software from these days like Joomla.... i don't know. You sound a bit bitter....

Anyway, you're right that the new mcpressonline leaves much to be desired. I for one don't look at it very often anymore since the upgrade. It's slow, it's poorly organized, cluttered with too much text/images on one page, the forums are not practical (i can't find the page with all new posts). But is this Joomla or just a bad implementation?? I can't tell because i don't know Joomla. However, i suspect it's the latter, as always.

But if this is because of open source, modern times, the internet, and the decline of SSA.... i for one wouldn't go back to the 80's or the 90's, really. Never. Ever. At least these days there is progress, discussion, e.g. RPG IV and modular programming instead of RPGIII/II. In the 80's/90's i didn't believe in a future for the platform (we didn't have the problem of a declining market thats true so "no worries"), but these days there is hope.... And at least a bit more fun. A bit...

From: joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Another Midrange Forum Falls Over and Can't Get Up> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:55:31 -0600> > MC Press Online (www.mcpressonline.com), which happens to be where I do most> of my writing, has been having a few bumps in the road in its attempt to> move from what I believe was a Notes-based web site to a Joomla-driven CMS.> > It continues to beg the question of whether these "out of the box" systems,> especially the Open Source software, are really ready for prime time.> > And while MC has had some trouble, at lease their site is up. System i> Network's forums have been down pretty much all day today, returning a page> that looks like an HTTP error, but instead saying "Database error> encountered".> > I'm sorry, but software at that level of fragility would never have made it> out the door in the 80s and even the early 90s. Oh sure, there are a couple> of folks who will complain about some feature that took SSA forever to get> right, but that was a 100-million line system that for the most part ran> successfully day in and day out (and in many cases still does).> > There were LOGIC errors in many cases - allocations not calculated quite> correctly, or things getting posted to the wrong date - but the code didn't> regularly just fall over dead. I remember spending a man-month tracking> down every MEMORY LEAK in our OS/2 thick client software. Imagine code> today without memory leaks - oh what a wonderful world it would be!> > In my opinion, general code quality today absolutely stinks compared to 20> years ago.> > Okay, that's my rant for the month. And I already had one in January, so> this will have to count for February. Dagnabit.> > Joe> > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list> To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,> visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l> or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives> at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.>

_________________________________________________________________
Probeer Live Search: de zoekmachine van de makers van MSN!
http://www.live.com/?searchOnly=true