Re: IBM investment in i

["Michael Ryan" <michaelrtr@xxxxxxxxx>]

What would be the cost of a corresponding *NIX or Windows box? That's
the key. Properly configured and such of course.

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Aaron Bartell <aaronbartell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I wonder if the box would be more saleable if a vendor would
>  pre-build/pre-ship it will a collection of off the shelf open source
>  applications?  For instance, they could load OpenBravo for ERP purposes (
>  http://www.openbravo.com/), Alfresco for ECM (http://alfresco.com/),
>  SugarCRM for CRM (http://www.sugarcrm.com), setup a linux partition to be an
>  email server, Joomla for creating an easy to maintain web presence.
>
>  A small company could get a single server to meet a majority of their needs
>  and only pay for the hardware to run IBM i and Linux.  With all the
>  enhancements to CPU power in the lesser models (i.e. 515) I would have guess
>  all of these apps could run quite well without much effort.
>
>  Thoughts?
>
>  Aaron Bartell
>  http://mowyourlawn.com
>
>  On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Pat Barber <mboceanside@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  wrote:
>
>  > Booth Martin wrote:
>  >
>  > When the IBM salesman calls on his AS/400 accounts in the
>  > foreseeable future, what is he going to be selling them?
>  > IBM has only  "managed decline" to offer.
>  >
>  >
>  > This is exactly what the problem is in my opinion.
>  >
>  > IBM or very few other folks are actuallly out there
>  > trying to sell the product.
>  >
>  >  I am not aware of a single IBM rep in the two state area I work in.
>  >
>  > I believe when IBM killed the small business partner program back in
>  > 1998, there was a marked decline in the sales of any boxes. There is
>  > nobody in my geographic area that actually goes out and makes sales
>  > calls on customers(cold calling).
>  >
>  > IBM hasn't had a sales force in several years and counts on the large
>  > Business Partners that are left to sell to the existing accounts.
>  >
>  > These BPs are "not" selling to small accounts. They have no financial
>  > interest
>  > in a small 520/525 account. When these small starter systems started
>  > dying off, there was nobody there to pick up the slack.
>  >
>  > I define a small account as a box that sells for less that $25K.
>  > These used to be the heart and soul of the box and their decline is why we
>  > are whining today. NOBODY is selling these machines.
>  >
>  > I have several friends that are CE's or retired CE's and I hear the talk
>  > about the
>  > lack of new installs, which directly affects their careers.
>  >
>  > Forget the "IBM ain't selling the box".... Nobody is selling the box.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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