Dude, you're starting to sound like Buck Calabro over on the CPF list. :-))
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry Adams
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 9:04 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: Hotel internet access in the UK
Trevor,
My dictionary gives several meanings for "phenomenon" two of which are: "1)
in Kantian philosophy, a thing as it appears in perception as distinguished
from the thing as it is in itself independent of sense experience: 2) any
extremely unusual or extraordinary thing or occurrence."
Knowing how precise you are, I can surmise that you either think that Rob's
comment as a whole is contrary to actual events, or that it is an anomaly
that will eventually be "corrected". Perhaps, though, your disbelief is
simply with the phrase "starting to see through these scams." Not exactly
sure which, if either.
If you really want some sort of verification of the whole, you might check
the financial statements of the various hotel chains and compare their
profitability. These should be available from the SEC, as most/all are
publicly held corporations. Sorry, but I don't have the time to indulge you
here. The only "evidence" that I have are anecdotal reports on NPR, CNN,
etc., which back up Rob's overall observation.
If your problem is with the "scam" part, are you doubting that these issues
mentioned are not scams, or, rather, that people are too naïve or ignorant
to perceive them as scams? Just as a personal opinion, they are
scams/shams, and I think a great number of people understand them as such.
After all, Hampton Inn (my personal favorite) is just as good as any "high
rent" hotel that charges extra for things that it includes in the rent. It
requires some logical legerdemain to conclude otherwise than in the comment
you questioned.
Or was this all just an intellectual exercise or undisclosed
dimensions/purposes?
Thanks.
Jerry C. Adams
IBM System i Programmer/Analyst
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B&W Wholesale
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From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:51 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Hotel internet access in the UK
Rob,
You say "In tight economic times businesses are starting to see through
these scams and putting their people elsewhere."
Can you point me to some research that shows this phenomenon?
Thanks,
Trevor
On 6/4/09 8:42 AM, "rob@xxxxxxxxx" <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, you've discovered one of many strange anomalies about the more
up-market hotels here. Like, charging more per night for the convenience
of having a $15/person breakfast buffet available and a host of other per
fee items. And you could probably eat better by walking across the
parking lot of a down scale hotel and munching at Denny's. Or eating at
the free continental's available at many hotels.
In tight economic times businesses are starting to see through these scams
and putting their people elsewhere.
Rob Berendt
midrange.com
