Hi Jerry,
Wow!  :-)
Thanx,
Nick
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Trevor,
My dictionary gives several meanings for "phenomenon" two of which are: 
"1) in Kantian philosophy, a thing as it appears in perception as 
distinguished from the thing as it is in itself independent of sense 
experience: 2) any extremely unusual or extraordinary thing or 
occurrence."
Knowing how precise you are, I can surmise that you either think that 
Rob's comment as a whole is contrary to actual events, or that it is an 
anomaly that will eventually be "corrected".  Perhaps, though, your 
disbelief is simply with the phrase "starting to see through these scams." 
  Not exactly sure which, if either. 
If you really want some sort of verification of the whole, you might check 
the financial statements of the various hotel chains and compare their 
profitability.  These should be available from the SEC, as most/all are 
publicly held corporations.  Sorry, but I don't have the time to indulge 
you here.  The only "evidence" that I have are anecdotal reports on NPR, 
CNN, etc., which back up Rob's overall observation. 
If your problem is with the "scam" part, are you doubting that these 
issues mentioned are not scams, or, rather, that people are too naïve or 
ignorant to perceive them as scams?  Just as a personal opinion, they are 
scams/shams, and I think a great number of people understand them as such. 
 After all, Hampton Inn (my personal favorite) is just as good as any 
"high rent" hotel that charges extra for things that it includes in the 
rent.  It requires some logical legerdemain to conclude otherwise than in 
the comment you questioned.
Or was this all just an intellectual exercise or undisclosed 
dimensions/purposes?
Thanks.
Jerry C. Adams
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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:51 AM
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Subject: Re: Hotel internet access in the UK
Rob,
You say "In tight economic times businesses are starting to see through
these scams and putting their people elsewhere."
Can you point me to some research that shows this phenomenon?
Thanks,
Trevor
On 6/4/09 8:42 AM, "rob@xxxxxxxxx" <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, you've discovered one of many strange anomalies about the more
up-market hotels here.  Like, charging more per night for the 
convenience
of having a $15/person breakfast buffet available and a host of other 
per
fee items.  And you could probably eat better by walking across the
parking lot of a down scale hotel and munching at Denny's.  Or eating at
the free continental's available at many hotels.
In tight economic times businesses are starting to see through these 
scams
and putting their people elsewhere.
Rob Berendt
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