Re: eBay listing

You GOT IBM to give you a system password for a used system? i thought
they didnt EVER do that (and, since the software is
"non-transferable", how did you get not 1 but 3 serials?)
I have a 170 lying around that a programmer friend of mine wants, but
it asks for the pwd so i left it there...
Maybe in the USA it's easier to get such a thing (i think a 170 costs
usd50 on ebay, usd1000 here)...

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Robert Houts <rshouts@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The last time I had to do this (in 2005 for a used 270 I purchased), I not only had to prove ownership, I had to ensure that it was registered to me in three different IBM databases (CSOMAINT, CSOSOFT, and CSOHW).  It took a lot of emails between various IBMers, my business partner, and I to find the right places within IBM to ensure this was in those three databases before they would issue the system password.  I received the system password with 31 of the 70 days left in the grace period, after first contacting IBM on the 6th day of the grace period.

In addition to having the hardware serial number registered to you, you have to have the software serial numbers registered to you.  I had three different software serial numbers that were given to me by IBM, one for each version of the O/S for that machine (at least that's what they said they were).

Apparently CSOMAINT updates the entitlement, CSOSOFT updates the software part of the server, and CSOHW updates the hardware part of the server.

By the way, I was told that if you buy a new system, the seller will obtain the system password for you, but if you buy a used system, you must obtain it from IBM, which is what I had to do.



-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John McKee
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 17:29
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: RE: eBay listing

The system password issue had slipped my mind.  I think I have read here that it was 70 days.

Maybe too light to be a useful boat anchor,

Out of morbid curiosity,  assuming it was possible to get the system password for something this old, what >is< involved?  I can imagine that proving ownership would be part of it.

John McKee

-----Original message-----
From: "Robert Houts" rshouts@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 19:03:34 -0500
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'" midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: eBay listing

Yeah, I think it's about 21 pounds or so (that might include the case,
not that the case weighs that much).

Every time I think about IPLing it I think about the nightmare you
have to go through to get a system password, and it's certainly not
worth the effort just to play with it for a little while.  In addition
to it requiring a new system password if it's been powered down for an
extended period of time (how long that is I don't know), I remember
that it would ask for a new system password if I IPLed it without the tape drive connected.
Fortunately, if I just powered it back down and connected the tape
drive, it would IPL without a problem.


-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of sjl
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 14:54
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: eBay listing

I have one sitting in the garage.

It may be approximately the size of a desktop PC, but it weighs in at
least twice as heavy as any desktop I have ever owned.  Mine hasn't
been IPL'ed in
10 years - it would most likely come up asking for a system password...

-sjl



Robert wrote:
Here is the link on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-AS400-Type-9401-One-only-AS400-laptop-/250
900710 299?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item3a6ad9039b

The current bid is $30.

It's obviously not a "laptop" but is approximately the size of a desktop PC.
It looks like it is a P01, P02, or P03.  The serial number starts with
44, which means it was manufactured in Italy, which is where the P0x
series was manufactured.

I have a P02 which I purchased in 1994.  It originally had V2R3, and I
later upgraded it to V3R2.  I'm not sure about the P03, but the P01
and P02 were twinax-only, so you would need a dumb-terminal to IPL it.
Mine had 16MB of memory and a 2gb hard drive.  They also weren't
expandable hardware-wise, so they had a very limited purpose (and
pretty much no purpose today).  Mine hasn't seen the light of day since 1998.



-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roberto José
Etcheverry Romero
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 13:27
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: eBay listing

hmm in theory you should be able to do a D type IPL from the tape that
has the lic and os, fresh reinstall and voila!
Or you could go into DST and hope for the default password, i dont
know when the "reset os password" setting was added to the DST...
do you have a link? i would like to see such a thing as a laptop AS...

Best regards,

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 4:55 PM, John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have no interest in buying a 9401 CISC.  But, I am curious.  The
seller

states this:

Type: 9401.

S/N: 44-90434

One and the only AS400 "laptop version".

AS400 is in working condition. If I remember well it have V3R??? OS

installed.

Tape with OS is included.

I do not have QSECOFR password.

Softcase, Tape and some cables are included.

I do not have a time to play with it.

I'm selling it AS IS.

No return Accepted





Since seller states "I do not have QSECOFR password", along with it
being

quite old, my thought is that this is essentially junk.  Am I wrong?

John McKee
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