RE: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?

[Dennis <iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> checked with
> Greenwich2000.com; their clock shows 18:12; since it's 12:12 here,
> that's
> -6:00 (of course, I ain't no math wizard, you understand).

Maybe not.  But you got there before I did.  :)
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Dennis
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"Jerry C. Adams" <midrange@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Actually, according to the US Naval Observatory (referenced in the Tech
> Document you sent), it's the opposite; i.e., the Central Time Zone's
> DST's
> UTC offset = -5:00, and Standard time is -6:00.  Plus, checked with
> Greenwich2000.com; their clock shows 18:12; since it's 12:12 here,
> that's
> -6:00 (of course, I ain't no math wizard, you understand).
>
> In V5R1 it doesn't change automatically since there are no PTFs or
> QTIMZON
> system value.  I guess someone set it when the system was first
> installed
> here and no one (including me) ever thought about it again.
>
> Jerry C. Adams
> IBM i Programmer/Analyst
> If we do not succeed, we run the risk of failure. -Vice President Dan
> Quayle
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luis Rodriguez
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:51 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?
>
> Jerry,
>
> I suppose that your QUTCOFFSET would have to change every time you go
> through DST changes? So it would -06:00 during DST and -05:00 when
> using
> Standard time?
>
> Regards,
>
> Luis Rodriguez
> IBM Certified Systems Expert - eServer i5 iSeries
> -- 
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Jerry C. Adams <midrange@xxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > No such system value as QTIMZON in V5R1.  There is a QUTCOFFSET which
> is
> > set to -05:00 for us (Central Time).  Is this correct?  I ask because
> the
> > National Institute of Standards shows that it should be -06:00 (
> > http://nist.time.gov/images/US_time_zones.gif).
> >
> > Jerry C. Adams
> > IBM i Programmer/Analyst
> > It's like what Yogi said - What did Yogi say? -George Bell, Chicago
> White
> > Sox
> > --
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> > Murfreesboro, TN
> > 615-867-5070
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >  From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ingvaldson, Scott
> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 9:48 AM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: RE: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?
> >
> > What I saw in the History Log:
> >
> > Job 681224/QUSER/QZRCSRVS ended on 11/06/11 at 01:59:34; .119 seconds
> used;
> > Local system time has been adjusted.
> >        Message ID . . . . . . :   CPD1689       Severity . . . . . .
> . :
> > 00
> >         Message type . . . . . :   Information
> >         Date sent  . . . . . . :   11/06/11      Time sent  . . . . .
> . :
> >   01:00:00
> >
> >         Message . . . . :   Local system time has been adjusted.
> >         Cause . . . . . :   Local system time has been adjusted to
> use a
> > Coordinated
> >           Universal Time offset of -360 minutes due to reason code 2.
> The
> > reason codes
> >           and their meanings are as follows:
> >             0 - See previous messages.
> >             1 - A Daylight Saving Time transition has occurred.
> >             2 - The time zone currently used by the system value
> QTIMZON
> > has changed.
> >
> > Cleanup has started.
> > Job 681473/QPGMR/QCLNUSRMSG started on 11/06/11 at 01:00:04 in
> subsystem
> > QCTL
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Scott Ingvaldson
> > Senior IBM Support Specialist
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dennis [mailto:iseries@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 9:14 AM
> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> > Subject: RE: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?
> >
> > Hopefully that "gradual" part is incorrect, and the system - like the
> rest
> > of the non-personal computer systems in the world - merely
> > "decodes/represents" the time differently rather than actually
> changing
> any
> > clock.  Nowadays, most systems use the applicable UCT offset to
> determine
> > what the local time is/was.
> >
> > Can anyone here confirm the internal process?
> > ++
> > Dennis
> > ++
> >  "I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more
> I
> > have of it."
> >     -- Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy tablet phone.  Please excuse my brevity.
> > For any grammatic/spelling errors, there is no excuse.
> > ++
> >
> >
> > "Jerry C. Adams" <midrange@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > An off-list reply mentioned that DST support may not have been added
> > > until
> > > V5R3 and enhanced in V5R4.  And a search of PTF cover letters shows
> > > nothing
> > > older than 5.3.
> > >
> > > The "nice" thing about having the system change the time, especially
> in
> > > the
> > > fall, if I recall correctly, is that the adjustment is gradual, not
> > > instantaneous like I did.  A quick change could have an adverse
> effect
> > > on
> > > things like journals.  But ya do what ya gotta do, I guess.
> > >
> > > Jerry C. Adams
> > > IBM i Programmer/Analyst
> > > Everything that can be invented, has been invented. -Charles Duell,
> > > U.S.
> > > Patent Office Director (1899)
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Nelson
> > > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 8:05 AM
> > > To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> > > Subject: RE: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?
> > >
> > > I don't recall which release introduced the link to an SNTP server,
> but
> > > you
> > > could whip up a program to change the time for you. Stick it in the
> job
> > > scheduler to run on Sunday mornings, and have it read a 1 record
> file
> > > containing the actual dates to increase or decrease QHOUR. Plug in
> the
> > > dates
> > > in January, and you're done for the year.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Paul Nelson
> > > Office 512-392-2577
> > > Cell 708-670-6978
> > > nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
> > > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:25 AM
> > > To: Midrange-L
> > > Subject: DST PTF(s) for V5R1?
> > >
> > > I'm pretty sure that this is a futile question, but, hey, nothing
> > > ventured.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yesterday afternoon (Sunday, 6 November) I checked our iSeries
> machine,
> > > which is running V5R1.  The time had not changed.  Since no one
> works
> > > on the
> > > system on weekends, I changed the time manually.  Is there a PTF
> > > *still*
> > > available for 5.1 regarding Daylight Savings Time?  Our office admin
> > > and I
> > > were trying to remember if anyone had to do anything for DST back in
> > > the
> > > Spring, but I'm old and she's blonde, ergo neither of us could
> recall
> > > anyone
> > > doing a manual change.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I suspect that I'm stuck with changing the time manually from here
> on
> > > out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerry C. Adams
> > >
> > > IBM i Programmer/Analyst
> > >
> > > The game was closer than the score indicated. -Dizzy Dean on a 1-0
> ball
> > > game
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
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