Re: Mandatory Job Log

[DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I had an EOY job to clear all on hand inventory prior to posting the 
physical counts.  I had a screen pop up that said: "Key this if you 
really want to zero all inventory:  ^%+*DD_G+(SS(&&TT" (or something 
like that.) After I left the guy after me couldn't get it right at year 
end so he took off the safety. You can guess what happened some months 
later when he flipped two numbers in a program call.  :-)  (Hunt for Red 
October anyone???)

    - L

On 1/9/2012 3:34 PM, Jerry C. Adams wrote:
> That reminds me of a process I found at my previous employer.  It asked if
> you wanted to run the process; if not type STOP.  Then it checked for the
> word "NO" to terminate.  People like that should be kicked out of the gene
> pool.
>
> Jerry C. Adams
> IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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> Auguste Renoir
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of paul therrien
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 1:19 PM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log
>
> For really important stuff you make the user actually key in the word 'YES'
> or 'DELETE' --- don't take ENTER for an answer!  :-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:31 AM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log
>
> True, but the latest incident had nothing to do with vacations, but it
> suddenly became "critical" over a week later.  Really can't blame the user -
> this time.  We only have two clerks here, and both said, "We didn't close
> such-and-such for December but the system (application) says it is closed."
> I verified that the application was, indeed, closed; i.e., posted to the
> G/L.
>
> Turned out (after a bit of brow-beating) that the Treasurer/Owner had
> "accidentally" run the close before December was even over!  Even though
> there's a "Do You really want to do this?" panel, he gets distracted and
> just turns around and presses the Enter key.  I have long been of the
> opinion that a confirmation should require a more positive response than
> just pressing the Enter key, such as pressing a command/function key.  I'll
> probably get around to implementing that for this application since it
> caused so much turmoil last week.
>
> Jerry C. Adams
> IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of rob@xxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 8:06 AM
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> Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log
>
> Oh well, that should help cover that occasional week off.  :-)
>
>
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> From:   "Jerry C. Adams"<midrange@xxxxxxxx>
> To:     "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
> <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Date:   01/09/2012 08:57 AM
> Subject:        RE: Mandatory Job Log
> Sent by:        midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> Roger,
>
> Thanks for reminding me of the Cleanup routine.  Job logs were set for
> removal after 7 days, but (I can't believe this) it's sometimes>  a week
> before they report a problem.  So I changed it to 14 days.
>
> Jerry C. Adams
> IBM i Programmer/Analyst
> "Female Adelie Penguins Acquire Nest Material from Extrapair Males After
> Engaging in Extrapair Copulations" - paper in the journal Auk (vol. 115,
> No.
> 2) by F.M. Hunter and L.S. Davis (i.e., they prostituted themselves for
> rocks)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harman, Roger
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 2:53 PM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log
>
> They don't have to physically "print".  And, system cleanup options (or a
> scheduled job) can purge them for you.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 11:54 AM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log
>
> Roger,
>
> Yes, I considered that - but I don't want my job logs printing or have to
> remember to prompt to change the default.
>
> Jerry C. Adams
> IBM i Programmer/Analyst
> The Georgian language seems to be unrelated to any other and uses a 38
> letter alphabet called Mxedruli. -EUI
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Harman, Roger
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 1:14 PM
> To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
> Subject: RE: Mandatory Job Log
>
> Have you considered:   ChgCmdDft  Cmd(Signoff)  NewDft('LOG(*LIST)')   ??
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry C. Adams
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 10:40 AM
> To: Midrange-L
> Subject: Mandatory Job Log
>
> I am having problems with a couple of users telling me, "I didn't do that"
> (whatever THAT is).  I wanted to force a joblog.  If they signoff using a
> menu option, I have SIGNOFF *LIST, but if they just type SIGNOFF the
> default
> is *NOLIST.
>
>
>
> I thought that changing the job description to:
>
>
>
>                         Change Job Description (CHGJOBD)
>
>
>
> Type choices, press Enter.
>
>
>
> Message logging:                 LOG
>
>    Level  . . . . . . . . . . . .                4
>
>    Severity . . . . . . . . . . .                00
>
>    Text . . . . . . . . . . . . .                *SECLVL
>
> Log CL program commands  . . . . LOGCLPGM       *YES
>
>
>
> and putting that into their user profile would always get a job log no
> matter how they signed off.  I know (because I tested it - again) that on
> a
> SBMJOB with this job description I get a job log.
>
>
>
> What am I missing regarding the interactive sessions?
>
>
>
> Jerry C. Adams
>
> IBM i Programmer/Analyst
>
> And those who were seen dancing were thought insane by those who could not
> hear the music. - Nietzsche
>
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