Re: SEU vs RDP was: Software Vendors (And US too) - A small rant

[Trevor Perry <trevor@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Rob,

I was not decrying the occasional use of SEU, rather the lack of use of RD
Power for ~anything~. ADTS has been essentially stabilized for many years.
If you want to use RPG Open Access, no validation can be made in SEU, only
in RD Power.

In the real world, SEU and RD Power are tools in your toolbelt. However,
SEU is not your primary development tool. There is no 'versus".

Trevor

On 12/12/12 3:11 PM, "rob@xxxxxxxxx" <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> If all you ever do is tweak an occasional CL program then why even load
> "Application Development ToolSet" (or whatever the set for SEU is called
> this week)?  After all EDTF and CRTCLPGM aren't dependent on it.  Why
> spend that money?  Why waste the disk?  Why keep up the PTFs?  And, since
> SEU will blow you grief on op codes that postdate the last time SEU was
> updated while EDTF won't?
>
> And, yes, I have used EDTF and CRTCLPGM in a pinch.
>
> Rob Berendt
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> From:   "Paul Nelson" <nelsonp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:     "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
> <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> Date:   12/12/2012 02:59 PM
> Subject:        RE: Software Vendors (And US too) - A small rant
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>
>
> Good point, Gary.
>
> Why would someone go to the effort and expense of setting up a PC with
> whatever WDSC is called these days just to make an occasional tweak to a
> CL
> program?
>
> Paul Nelson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monnier, Gary
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:54 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: RE: Software Vendors (And US too) - A small rant
>
> Trevor,
>
> Reread your own posts as if they were written by someone else.  Can you
> find
> the marketing opportunity?
>
> As far as SEU goes I still use it at times; not very often but
> occasionally.
> I also use NotePad and the command.  IMHO, IBM jettisoning SEU would be
> akin
> to Microsoft jettisoning Notepad or their command window.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:27 AM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: Software Vendors (And US too) - A small rant
>
> So why did it need the complaining to start the post?
>
> This is where I find we do our platform a huge injustice. Our community
> starts with a complaint, and it just goes downhill. Where is all the
> passion
> and positivity that we had when we started here? And how will we attract
> the
> YiPs if all we do is moan, groan and use SEU? And why would IBM listen to
> a
> bunch of complaints?
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