Re: [WDSCI-L] RDP: Are we our own worst enemy?

I like RDP, of course, there is no alternative besides SEU/PDM.

But i'm not quite impressed with the quality of it.

Version 8.5 was unworkable (stale source members).

Now i'm on 8.5.1 and the "content assist" feature works, sometimes.
If i'm editing DDS sometimes it gets very very slow (i already tweaked the
JVM options and have 4Gb on board).
It's processing in the background, but unlike e.g. Eclipse/Java it
interferes with my typing.
Regularly, in the DDS editor, i'm waiting for several seconds before the
cursor actually moves.
Really frustrating.

We're now on version 8.5.1, maybe it gets better.
I use it all the time, because the editor gives me more lines and is much
better than SEU (of course).

But i really do not want to miss SEU, and especially not PDM.
It's really fast to look up something, etc.



On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:08 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

After spending money on having some excellent talent come on site to teach
CODE (been awhile) I really feel that we hurt ourselves by not
securing/renaming/deleting SEU and PDM. Granted, there may be some things
that PDM may still be your preference for but a 30 day lockout would have
encouraged the team to really give it a try and to get over the temptation
to use the older set.


Rob Berendt
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From: <paultherrien@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Rational Developer for IBM i / Websphere Development Studio
Client for System i & iSeries'" <wdsci-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Midrange
Systems Technical Discussion'" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 12/18/2012 08:01 AM
Subject: RE: [WDSCI-L] RDP: Are we our own worst enemy?
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Thanks Rob, I will be able to use this to help plan a demo/class for my
co-workers who are absolutely stuck in SEU.


Paul


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I went to
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/
and at the search box at the top right I typed in Rational developer for
power.

The first hit was a free trial download
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/r/rdp/

Second was a "What's new"
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/products/rdp/release.html

Third was an overview
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rational/products/rdp/

But hold your horses! Check out the link entitled "Enterprise
Modernization
Sandbox for Power Systems" available at
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/emsandbox_power/index.html
There's a whole set of labs available! Check out the section "Scripted,
hands-on exercises you can try in the Sandbox".

There's a good start.

Rob Berendt
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From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 12/18/2012 07:11 AM
Subject: RDP: Are we our own worst enemy?
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I changed the subject since I'm guessing that many people stopped
following this thread.

I think Booth's comments below are awesome and this needs to be heard,
which is why I changed the subject line. Please read and pay attention,
especially to the last paragraph.


Rob Berendt





From: Booth Martin <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 12/17/2012 03:34 PM
Subject: Re: something unrelated
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Buck is on to something here. Are we, as a group, using the product the
way we should or are we limiting ourselves with our own falsely imposed
constraints?

In reading Buck's comment, I'd concur that Rdp does in fact blow the
doors off SEU. It is a great product. I do love what it does; it
works, and it has so much more to offer than SEU. Mostly, that "more"
includes a future.

Where am I going with this? Well, it also occurs to me that Rdp no
doubt does way more than i know, including lots of features I don't yet
realize I need but we as an interest group are staying stuck in the 90s.

Where are the Youtube tutorials on how to get the most of Rdp? Where
are the web sites with examples, screen shots, and tips and solutions?
Where is a ibrary of snippets (whatever they are)? I just did a Google
search and what little there is is 2+ years old.



On 12/17/2012 2:00 PM, Buck Calabro wrote:

RDP blows the doors off of SEU, and I say that as a 25+ year veteran of
SEU. And frankly, it isn't a GUI vs green screen thing for me, because
the green screen XEDIT blew the doors off of SEU in the 1990s and SEU
has not changed since then.

This isn't a theoretical 'throw out the old at your peril' sort of
thing, it's an actual end-user's experience report, and it's not a
decision made on an emotional need to squee over the latest and
greatest, but on decades of actual use. RDP is not merely newer than
SEU, it's better than SEU. Yes, this is my opinion, and I it's my hope
that it is read as another data point and not a divisive line between
'us' and 'them.'

--buck

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Booth Martin
802-461-5349
http://www.martinvt.com


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