RE: IBMi25

Hmm, 50% does not seem like a "passing grade".

Although, at the time, from what I understand, S/38 had some claim to being the most advanced IBM computer.
(single level storage, OS based on 64 bit with 48 bit (If I recall) implemented, DB integrated with OS)

Frank Soltis is a hero to me.

I was working about that time on a water-cooled mainframe running IMS, COBOL and JCL and the System
Engineer said my division's plans to go to an "air-cooled" computer (S38) would be imperiled by that
systems performance limits.

One look at S38 CL and I said good-by/good-riddance to JCL.

COBOL to RPG was also much easier than conversational IMS COBOL.

However, I will never forgive IBM for dragging their feet on DB2 !

OPNQRYF was, to me, a lame patch (ok, a very useful patch).

I'm no hardware/os guru, so maybe others can help here ?


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I am told that APIs did not start to arrive on the system until the AS400.
That was certainly a big advance. And the underlying system security model has certainly been shored up tremdously. But still, half of the code I see out in the wild would run on a S/38. Just think IBM should include the
S/38 in the celebration.



On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:44 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Steve,

I get the idea that you think that nothing that IBM has added to IBM i
(and it's predecessors) in that 25 years has had any significance
because you want IBM to address your current wish of the day. And, if
IBM addresses that then it would no longer be anything of any
significance because you would then have a new wish of the day, and
that if IBM doesn't address it must be because IBM is sounding the
death knell of IBM i (if not the entire free world).


Rob Berendt
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From: Steve Richter <stephenrichter@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 04/08/2013 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: IBMi25
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the 25 year mark seems to send the S/38 down the memory hole. as
Steve Will writes:

http://ibmsystemsmag.blogs.com/you_and_i/2013/04/integration-and-ibm-i
-at-25.html

"... Integration meant bringing the S/36 and S/38 together,
integrating them, combining their customer communities, and allowing
applications from both heritages to move to an advanced, powerful system. ..."
Meaning, the as400 was the s/38 with an added s/36 environment. And
being that S/36 RPG has all been ported to RPG400 the s/38 environment
did not add any features of lasting value to the system. I know we
have had this discussion before, but each release of the S/38 brought
tremendous features. OPNQRYF was big in the day. Journaling. Not sure
if IBM started providing APIs on S/38 releases. I know they predated
ILE because I remember limiting myself to APIs that could be called
from OPM code. As a
S/38 programmer I did not see the AS400 as anything but a continuation
of the excellent releases IBM had been putting out for the 38.

If IBM wants to release something neat at Common they could announce
Javascript as an ILE language.

-Steve




On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:53 AM, nhdennis@xxxxxxxxxxx
<nhdennis@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Happy Birthday Silverlake!

Norm Dennis


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