Just makes me think that I was talking with a Windows person. Even
ancient 520 running v5r4 is considerably better than that

But, requesting an IPL may be a way to get customer busy to allow
research time without looking like any research was being done. I
don't mean this in a nasty way. But, it sure reads like it, to me.

John McKee

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah, IPLing your IBM i to resolve a console issue, and then find out you
still don't have a functioning console, is one sure way to muff up your
Monday.


Rob Berendt
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From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 04/11/2013 02:52 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing a LAN console
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



There is a pc in the computer room. Only has 5250 emulation on it.
When the mess happened before, it was sufficient, barely, to resolve
that issue. Boss said there would be no backup or IPL this weekend,
to avoid a potential additional headache. The headache of the
unknown.

John McKee

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Jerry C. Adams <midrange@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
If your boss doesn't like complications, he should love the
multi-console
capability that Rob mentioned. We had three [3] PCs capable of being
the
console at a previous employer. My boss or I could start a process on
the
console and the other one would take it over right in the middle. Easy.
The third PC was, as Rob mentioned, mostly for backup (or because I was
in
the CFO's office one day and didn't want to walk to the other side of
the
building to access the console, I forget).

Short of an HMC, this is the best option available.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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be
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John McKee
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:01 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Replacing a LAN console

I gathered I could, based on the screen inquiring if I wanted to take
control. Issue then becomes a matter of communication. The system is
almost totally unmonitored. No dedicated people to serve as
"operators".
So even knowing who will be operating is a bit of a challenge.

The boss would not want to complicate things too much. He also
functions as
an operator every other weekend doing backups. It is all very strange.
But, this is on a prolonged death spiral. May be running another year.

I was wondering about the sequence of buttons I pushed to clear
"something"
on the i that prevented the current console from connecting after I
trashed
the config and rebuilt it exactly as it was. Whay was that an issue?
What
was going on? Will multiple consoles cause a repeat? The last is
important
especially since I have no idea who will be using the console.

John McKee

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:50 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Did you know that you can have more than one device be your Lan
Console? I strongly recommend loading it on more than one PC. This
way if one dies, you can use the other. Or, if you're a two person IT
shop, load it on both you and your coworker's laptop.
Granted, with HMC, it's been awhile since I've used Lan Console.


Rob Berendt
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IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 04/10/2013 02:43 PM
Subject: Replacing a LAN console
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx



I used the wrong term last week. It was NOT an OPS console. It is
LAN console.

After getting the thing to work last week, I come in this morning to
see that the thing had died. I don't know why it needed to be
rebooted, but Windows had a problem finding a DLL. Many reboots
later, I saw that different pieces were mysteriously "missing".

For the moment, it is working. It is an MPC. Looks like a bloated
LCD display, but it is computer built into a monitor. I tried to get
into BIOS setting, with intent of running SpinRite. I believe I will
pass on that.

Boss wants it replaced, and there is a much newer computer available.

Point of this post, if somebody reading this has not given up, is
confusion I have. After I deleted the LAN configuration from the pc,
which Windows had no problem doing, I built a new console , per
request from IBM. Initially, Windows would not allow the new
configuration to be stored. Had no issue with me deleting a
configuration. Seems odd. But, anyway, new configuratio was finally
stored. Console would not connect to the i. But, this time, an error
popped up which Tony knew how to fix. It involved going to the i
front panel and entering a number of codes. I can't remember what
they were. Seem to remember one sequence being repeated maybe eight
times.

Ok, during start of the current LAN console, there is a point where
the option to take control is presented.

My issue is what the heck was I clearing on the i and is that a factor
in replacing the console computer?

John McKee
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