Re: Replacing a LAN console -- MIDRANGE-L

I will add this, if your going to use multiple PC's, then make sure you are
establishing some guidelines as it pertains to the usage of QCONSOLE and
service tools device ID's by PC.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Jerry C. Adams <midrange@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Rob is right; you need more than one device (PC) with LAN console ability,
and it isn't necessary to IPL the System i to do this or to set it to
dedicated mode.

Personally I have a very bad memory so I documented all of the steps. If
you need/want copies, email me off-list.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John McKee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:19 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Replacing a LAN console

I forgot one other little detail. Currently, the new and old broken LAN
consol pcs are in a room next to the room containing the i.
Despite the detail that a ping from one to the other works, he wanted me to
move the pc into the room with the i, and directly attach to connector T5.
Light in that room isn't the best. Used to be a flashlight there as well.
I could not find a T5 connector. This was to rule out a network issue.
But, network worked just fine until original LAN console pc died. Did his
suggestion have merit?

John McKee

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:02 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yeah, IPLing your IBM i to resolve a console issue, and then find out
you still don't have a functioning console, is one sure way to muff up
your Monday.

Rob Berendt
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From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 04/11/2013 02:52 PM
Subject: Re: Replacing a LAN console
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

There is a pc in the computer room. Only has 5250 emulation on it.
When the mess happened before, it was sufficient, barely, to resolve
that issue. Boss said there would be no backup or IPL this weekend,
to avoid a potential additional headache. The headache of the
unknown.

John McKee

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Jerry C. Adams <midrange@xxxxxxxx>

wrote:

If your boss doesn't like complications, he should love the

multi-console

capability that Rob mentioned. We had three [3] PCs capable of being

the

console at a previous employer. My boss or I could start a process
on

the

console and the other one would take it over right in the middle. Easy.
The third PC was, as Rob mentioned, mostly for backup (or because I
was

in

the CFO's office one day and didn't want to walk to the other side of

the

building to access the console, I forget).

Short of an HMC, this is the best option available.

Jerry C. Adams
IBM i Programmer/Analyst
I think that the free-enterprise system is absolutely too important
to

be

left to the voluntary action of the market place. - Congressman
Richard Kelly (FL)
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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John McKee
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 2:01 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Replacing a LAN console

I gathered I could, based on the screen inquiring if I wanted to take
control. Issue then becomes a matter of communication. The system
is almost totally unmonitored. No dedicated people to serve as

"operators".

So even knowing who will be operating is a bit of a challenge.

The boss would not want to complicate things too much. He also

functions as

an operator every other weekend doing backups. It is all very strange.
But, this is on a prolonged death spiral. May be running another year.

I was wondering about the sequence of buttons I pushed to clear

"something"

on the i that prevented the current console from connecting after I

trashed

the config and rebuilt it exactly as it was. Whay was that an issue?

What

was going on? Will multiple consoles cause a repeat? The last is

important

especially since I have no idea who will be using the console.

John McKee

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:50 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Did you know that you can have more than one device be your Lan
Console? I strongly recommend loading it on more than one PC. This
way if one dies, you can use the other. Or, if you're a two person
IT shop, load it on both you and your coworker's laptop.
Granted, with HMC, it's been awhile since I've used Lan Console.

Rob Berendt
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6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
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From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion

<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,

Date: 04/10/2013 02:43 PM
Subject: Replacing a LAN console
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

I used the wrong term last week. It was NOT an OPS console. It is
LAN console.

After getting the thing to work last week, I come in this morning to
see that the thing had died. I don't know why it needed to be
rebooted, but Windows had a problem finding a DLL. Many reboots
later, I saw that different pieces were mysteriously "missing".

For the moment, it is working. It is an MPC. Looks like a bloated
LCD display, but it is computer built into a monitor. I tried to
get into BIOS setting, with intent of running SpinRite. I believe I
will pass on that.

Boss wants it replaced, and there is a much newer computer available.

Point of this post, if somebody reading this has not given up, is
confusion I have. After I deleted the LAN configuration from the
pc, which Windows had no problem doing, I built a new console , per
request from IBM. Initially, Windows would not allow the new
configuration to be stored. Had no issue with me deleting a
configuration. Seems odd. But, anyway, new configuratio was
finally stored. Console would not connect to the i. But, this
time, an error popped up which Tony knew how to fix. It involved
going to the i front panel and entering a number of codes. I can't
remember what they were. Seem to remember one sequence being
repeated maybe eight times.

Ok, during start of the current LAN console, there is a point where
the option to take control is presented.

My issue is what the heck was I clearing on the i and is that a
factor in replacing the console computer?

John McKee
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