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Yes, once the front panel is set to T the *FULL pwrdwnsys will switch the
running firmware and it should stop complaining. Keep us posted when they
allow you to IPL again.
Best Regards,
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:03 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, based on earlier replies from others I would guess, once you haveit
set to T, that *FULL should be enough. Again, I use HMC mostly, withrunning
firmware upgrades controlled by it that I don't do it this way.
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From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Date: 08/29/2013 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: PTF install questions
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
This sounding like a stupid question, even to me: But:
Change from P to T, PWRDWNSYS RESTART*YES *FULL)
Or, is Change P to T, PWRDWNSYS RESTART(*NO) and white button the only
way?
Maybe, just maybe, I can get this fixed Sunday night. Or just put things
in motion for a hopeful fix in a random number of weeks.
John McKee
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:29 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That could be your problem. Running a power system on P is like
aan AS/400 on the A side. Just like you'll play heck applying PTF's toIBM
i when running on the A side you'll have a hard time applying firmwareat
fixes when running on the P side.
Been a long time since I cracked open the display on my power 6 to look
it. Just so used to using the HMC. Yep, mine is on T.,
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From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 08/29/2013 10:21 AMDeep
Subject: Re: PTF install questions
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Front panel is P.
Same as DSPPTF
John McKee
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Roberto José Etcheverry Romero <
yggdrasil.raiker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The front panel says T but the system still says P? that's weird. A
IPL is the only thing left to try, thats, pwrdwnsys restart *NO, waituntil
power led blinks and front panel says 01 B N and pull the plug. wait
someminute and reconnect. If that doesnt change it to T then there is
additionalblack magic at work.
Keep us posted
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:09 AM, John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wantwrote:
Still shows P side.triggers
My only concern with this mismatch, at this point, is whether this
a "gotcha" at some point, deep in the upgrade process. I do not
towere
go
through that again.
People have been complaining about the announced downtimes. They
duringforgotteninformed by email. Who reads email??? This either has to be
0997.totally, or at least for several more weeks.
John McKee
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Roberto José Etcheverry Romero <
yggdrasil.raiker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Can you try this again?
DSPPTF SELECT(*ACTRQD)
shows eight MH PTFs - 1076, 1073, 1070, 1053, 1007, 1004, 1001,
sourceAll
permantly applied. All show "Permanently applied - IPL". IPL
is
##MACH#B ##SERV#P.
I want to see if it did change to T side.
After all, when the OS controls the fw updates it updates it
aIPL".
before.*full
*yes restart so it should work. And to ammend something i said
Aapplies a
PWRDWNSYS *FULL restart *YES does a FSP reset only when a ptf
new
fw or when you change the fw side (from T to P or viceversa).
AH! i just remembered where i saw that "Permanently Applied -
Ifinally
hadPTFs
to replace a FSP on a machine. My FSP had greater levels than the
on
the OS so it always was marked like that. Never knew if they
clearedgot
up
to date on PTFs but a lastest-cumulative-install should have
sothat.
I dont think IBM goes around replacing Service Processors all day
i
<jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>doubt it's your case...
Best Regards,
Roberto
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 10:23 AM, John McKee
wrote:
Tried it this morning. It did NOT. No errors. Only
courseincludingentryrestart
in
history log from GO LICPGM was "Server IPL required".
John McKee
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 6:51 AM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, that "on a non partitioned, non hmc-managed system a
with
*FULL restart *YES will trigger a full server restart
thewith
<yggdrasil.raiker@xxxxxxxxxFSP"
is good news.
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From: Roberto José Etcheverry Romero
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxTo: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <
,
Date: 08/28/2013 05:44 PM
Subject: Re: PTF install questions
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Yes, on a non partitioned, non hmc-managed system a restart
fromFSP.*FULL
restart *YES will trigger a full server restart including the
installedI've seen clients running from A side since the machine was
jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>(one
even had QBASE as the controlling subsystem....)
Best Regards,
Roberto
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:30 PM, John McKee <
wrote:
This is a 520. No LPARs. No HMC.
Will restart *YES *FULL fix it? I think I read (was away
worksRomero <desk)
that
this won't work with LPARs. But will it work with p05?
John McKee
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Roberto José Etcheverry
consolesyggdrasil.raiker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think this is one of those p5 machines with TwinAx/Lan
(i
support lot's of them). In that no-partition case, it
as
intended,
a
*full restart does exactly what it says it does. Of
thatifit
fromwe're
talking
about partitions there should be NO way to update the FW
the
LPAR
(as
you've say lot's of times, FW MUST be HMC controlled for
notwhen
toachieved
go
way
too new for the hmc code) and a full restart can only be
from
the
HMC (either the system stays on "standby" or shutdowns
the
last
partition is off, either way you must start it manually).
I can count at least 4 systems off the top of my head
aare
non-partitioned, non-hmc-managed and were installed just
dofewlike
months
back.
Fresh from the factory 720 express, lan console. Seems
hmcYou
is
too
expensive for some, on those systems it still works...
Best Regards,
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 5:11 PM, <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A full 'server' ipl cannot be done with RESTART(*YES).
andmust
use
RESTART(*NO). Otherwise you're just IPLing that lpar
not
the
whole
box. (Yes, this isn't your father's AS/400.) So, to
athe
full
operationsserver
IPL
remotely (without an HMC) would probably require either
console
or lan console. This will give you a gui picture of
story).topresscontrol
panel.
So
after the system has powered all the way off you could
theconsole.
white
button via the control panel picture on lan/operations
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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From: John McKee <jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
,
Date: 08/28/2013 03:34 PM
Subject: Re: PTF install questions
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
I wondered about that this morning. Debated on whether
dosure
it
or
not.
From previous messages exchanged with Rob, I was not
if
that
would
have made a difference.
I started the IPL from my apartment (long boring
IGot
to
desk
and
terminal session was down. My DEVD had ONLINE (*NO).
fullhave
since
changed
it to *YES. In theory, now, I could then perform a
EtcheverryIPL
remotely
and
fix this minor irritant. Am I right?
John
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Roberto José
firmware.LICRomero <should
yggdrasil.raiker@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ah! i know what your problem is...
Front panel, does it perchance read: 01 B N V=F P? it
read
01
B
N
V=F T. In the same way you have A side and B side for
you
have
P
and
T
(permanent and temporal) sides for the FSP's
loadingYouptfs
are
IPL'ing
from
P which is the same as IPLing from A and expecting
tois
be*FULL
loaded.
Next time, do a PWRDWNSYS but take care that it's a
and1004,
not
a
<jmmckee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>*SYS
one. It'll restart the FSP and load the correct fw.
Best Regards!
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 4:15 PM, John McKee
wrote:
Finally did.
DSPPTF SELECT(*ACTRQD)
shows eight MH PTFs - 1076, 1073, 1070, 1053, 1007,
IPL".1001,
0997.
All
permantly applied. All show "Permanently applied -
showsIPL
source
is
##MACH#B ##SERV#P.
Displaying general information for 5722999 MH01076
secondServer
IPL
required ##SERV#T
Sticking my neck way out - does this imply that a
IPLed,IPL
from
"B"
side
will fix?
We had PTFs temp applied on "B" for years. We are
andnow,
on
"B".
Did
IPL this morning only end up syncing B and A sides,
documentsanotherTC10292.
IPL
will
fix it?
DSPPTF LICPGM(5722SS1) shows most recent (?) cum as
I have applied PTFs suggested in (I have three
don't
remember
which one) manuals for v5r4 to v61 maybe v71 (mind
sayloading agoing).missed.
Will
look
through the docs a lot more to be sure nothing was
Since
things
are working, predictably, is there any point in
more
recent
CUME? I know you guys with LOADS more experience
link
loader
is
no
longer an issue. But, is there any point to
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