RE: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver -- MIDRANGE-L

Paul,

If you have the session signed on at the physical HMC as described before,
any interruption of communications from the second session will not affect
what's happening on the session started on the physical HMC.

If what you're doing works and you like it keep it up! But you don't have
to maintain the local PC so you can RDP into that just to use a remote
session into the HMC. That's doing double duty.

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Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:38 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver

If doing maintenance over VPN from remote PC, and connection drops for what
ever reason, it probably will impact your maint (Save, PTF, etc).
Sometimes you can't reconnect with the same Client Access secession.
Over the years, this has occurred several times.

Below has resolved all issues.

1) VPN in to corporate network.
2) Remote desktop from remote PC to locale PC.
3) Open required Client Access and/or HMC sessions as needed.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
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rob@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:17 PM
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Subject: RE: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver

Why is that 'better yet'?
I can see that maybe for lan console or some such thing.
Or if you didn't want to run from the system console. But, he WAS talking
about a GO SAVE 21.

Rob Berendt
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From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/29/2014 01:14 PM
Subject: RE: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Better yet, whenever we remote in for maint, we remote desktop to a PC
within the data center or local network, then open any needed sessions
from that PC.
If you remote session fails, local PC which is doing all the work
continues to process without issue.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Oberholtzer
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:54 PM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver

Yes.

So set up a console session on the HMC. Leave it on the sign on screen.

Later connect to port 2300 of the HMC with a 5250 emulator, and sign on.
You will see the job in both places. Sign on a second, third, fourth,
....
time. You will see the same job on all the sessions. As the screen is
updated by the host, all of the sessions will be updated at the same time.

So the process is leave each of your partitions set with a signon screen
at the physical HMC. Only use the remote 5250 session to do your work and
you'll not have the described problem again. Other processes are not as
forgiving as a full system save.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim
Franz
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 11:49 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver

Jim,

So if set up your steps, when he went to the physical hmc, if he signed on
it would pick up the running SAVE21, (or the SAVE 21 would have been
running on the HMC)?

Jim Franz

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yep, IBM thought of that problem.

That's why I insist that all my customers start a console session on
the physical HMC for each partition and just leave it without signing
on. That way when you use a remote connection the local HMC
connection is also started and remains in place in the event of a
remote communications failure to the HMC.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jim Franz
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 9:35 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: SAVE 21 remote hmc and pc energy saver

Our admin ran a save21 from his laptap remoted into hmc.
All was running well till laptop energy saver blacked out the display.
Was an hour into it.
He went to HMC and had blank screen for console.

Used web access of tape library to monitor activity.
Save 21 kept running, and tape drive was set to autoload. Not using

BRMS.

V7r1
It kept running (3 more hours, including load of 2nd tape) and
completed the save 21 In previous releases I've seen this fail. The
CPF5080 has "ignore"
thoughout log.

CPF5140 Diagnostic 70 09/28/14 18:17:56.041199
QWSERROR QSYS 0630 QWSUIEH
Message . . . . : Session stopped

a request from device DSP01.

CPF5503 Diagnostic 30 09/28/14 18:17:56.041241
QWSERROR QSYS 0652 QWSUIEH
Message . . . . : Input or Output
request failed. See message CPF5140.

CPF5080 Notify 30 09/28/14 18:18:06.437840
QWSDSMSG QSYS 0546 QMHSNSTA Q
Message . . . . : Display status
message request failed. See message

CPF5263.
Cause . . . . . : Various error
conditions detected. Recovery . . . :
Close the active file, if any,
and see the message CPF5263 for corrective
action. Correct the errors and
then try the request again. Possible choices
for replying to message . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . : I -- Ignore the

request.
*NONE Reply 09/28/14 18:18:06.437844
QMHSNINQ QSYS 0F84 QMHSNSTA Q
Message . . . . : I

Jim Franz
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