Paul,

Yes, that is correct. The issue is, I don't know if they will issue a PTF
for V7R1 or not for this. The customer that had the issue didn't sound
like IBM was in any hurry to fix this.

Luckily we were able to provide the option to fix it, though.

But, on the other hand, I don't believe your application is using the IBM
SSL APIs. You may want to confirm with the vendor. As I said, it looks
like a ported version of cURL. I would contact their support as they'll be
able to offer the assistance.

If they are using our GETURI product in the background (which some vendors
do), then the fix would be install the latest version of GETURI and update
the data area to the proper value. But I don't believe this is the case
here.

Brad
www.bfstools.com

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Steinmetz, Paul <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Brad,

I did view the link.
If I'm understanding this correctly, a V7R1 system SSL API will use a
default of 0.
SSL_VERSION_CURRENT 0 (TLS Version 1.x with SSL Version 3.0 and SSL
Version 2.0 compatibility)

However, default of 0 is not working for TLSv1.2.

The application only allows us to use default, so option 1 thru 8, etc.
are not options.

So am I correct the IBM SSL API with default of 0 is not working as
designed and needs to be fixed via a PTF or other "workaround".

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Bradley Stone
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 4:05 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SSL client connection error - SSL_Handshake(): Peer not
recognized or badly formatted message received.

Paul,

Did you look over the link I sent? It explains a potential issue with
V7R1 and using TLS v1.1 or higher. This could apply no matter if the SSL,
GSK or some other methods are being used.

I think you said your client is from a 3rd party. It looks like it's
maybe using some iteration/port of cURL. You may want to talk to them
about that as well. I'm not sure if that uses the APIs or it's own
settings.

Brad
www.bvstools.com

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Scott Klement <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Paul,

This question would be better answered by Brad Stone as he uses the
SSL APIs regularly. I prefer the GSKit ones, myself...

But, I assume that GSKit and SSL APIs work the same, here, just have a
different syntax. (That's pretty much the norm with these...)

The stuff you set in the system values are the only protocols that are
allowed, the system won't let the APIs override these settings. But,
the APIs can further restrict the choices.

So, for example:

Sysval allows TLS 1.1 and 1.2
API specifies TLS 1.0, TLS 1.1 and TLS 1.2
Result: Only TLS 1.1 or 1.2 will work. If client doesn't support
these, you get 'Peer not recognized'

Sysval allows SSL 2 and 3, TLS 1.0,1.1 and 1.2 API specifies TLS 1.2
Result: Only TLS 1.2 will work, if client doesn't support it, 'Peer
not recognized'

Sysval allows TLS 1.0, 1.1 and 1.2
API specifies: SSL 3
Result: Nothing will work, always get 'Peer not recognized'


The error 'Peer not recognized' can occur for other reasons besides
these protocol mismatches. For example, if you try to connect with an
SSL client to a plaintext server (one that doesn't support SSL) then
it will also produce this same error. This is something I do all the
time by accident
:-)

The error just means that the data it received doesn't fit any SSL/TLS
settings that you have enabled. So if it gets a plaintext message,
that would look like an 'unrecognized' SSL message. But also, if it's
in a format it's not configured for, it also wouldn't recognize it.

-SK


On 6/26/2015 2:21 PM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:

Scott,

We are using the SSL APIs.

Do these SSL APIs use the 3 system value settings, QSSLCSL,
QSSLCSLCTL, QSSLPCL?
Or
Do they have their own settings?
Or
Are they hardcoded?

What needs to be done to fix this?

Paul



-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Scott Klement
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:11 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: SSL client connection error - SSL_Handshake(): Peer not
recognized or badly formatted message received.

Since he references SSL_Handshake(), I'm assuming that he's using the
SSL APIs.

But if someone does need info about how to configure the versions in
GSKit, let me know, I can provide that...



On 6/26/2015 9:10 AM, Bradley Stone wrote:

Hi Paul.

What are you using to connect/communicate? Can you get the return
code?

Do you know if the GSKit APIs are used or the standard SSL APIs are
being used for the connect?

I ran into an issue with a customer on V7R1 that was trying to use
V7R1 and up and the SSL APIs weren't really doing things right, so
on the SSL Handshake API we had to tell it by sending it the proper
code and that cleared things up.

Here's a link to an article I wrote about it.. it refers to GETURI
but it would also apply to any client application that uses the SSL
APIs. (the GSKit APIs may have a different setting).

http://www.fieldexit.com/forum/display?threadid=170

Brad
www.bvstools.com

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Steinmetz, Paul
<PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I'm receiving this error when trying to connect to a remote server.

SSL_Handshake(): Peer not recognized or badly formatted message
received.

V7R1, TR10, latest CUM 15142 and all groups

I've confirmed DCM has proper CA, both root and intermediate.
Remote server has TLS1.0 disabled, TLS1.2 is currently being used
for other connections to that server.
I'm thinking this is either a SSL protocol issue or cipher issue.
I know when the I is the server, the DCM application defaults need
to be changed to allow TLS1.2 , TLS1.1 and disable SSL 3.0, SSL2.0
Also cipher defaults need to be changed.

Are there similar settings for when the I is the client?
I've seen other posts with this error, but did not see the final
resolution.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - C O N N E C T I O N F
E
E
D B A C K -
About to connect() to XXXXXX-web.XXX.net port 443 (#0)
Trying XXX.XXX.XXX.X... connected
SSL_Handshake(): Peer not recognized or badly formatted message
received.
Closing connection #0
SSL connect error
************End of Data********************


Thank You
_____
Paul Steinmetz
IBM i Systems Administrator

Pencor Services, Inc.
462 Delaware Ave
Palmerton Pa 18071

610-826-9117 work
610-826-9188 fax
610-349-0913 cell
610-377-6012 home

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