RE: How much time would be needed to move an iSeries with the below rack config?

Rob,

I hear you.
I can just picture the new hardware announcement, will require 7.2 or later.

Same thing happened to us back in early 2000's.
We bought new hardware that required an OS upgrade first.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Berendt
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: How much time would be needed to move an iSeries with the below rack config?

Gee, isn't Paul still running 7.1? If so, what's the point of waiting for new hardware announcements? Kind of like taking a kid to a candy store, but only to look.

As far as "hurry up the cables and clean them up later" I've discovered they never get cleaned up. Ever. It get's deemed too disruptive.

I will say that going from Power 6 to Power 8 and virtualizing ethernet, virtualizing fiber channel tape, getting rid of numerous enclosures of smaller disk drives and all IOP enclosures, is one awesome way to clean up cables. Since he's coming from Power 7 he won't be having near the "crap"
that I had with Power 6. It was amazing to see how little rack space the system took compared to Power 6.

Rob Berendt
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From: DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/08/2016 03:47 PM
Subject: Re: How much time would be needed to move an iSeries with
the below rack config?
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10 hours is not unreasonable but you could likely do a hurry up and
neaten the cables after it's all mounted and running. For the POWER
equipment only, the actual de-cable, de-rack, re-rack, re-cable for a
skilled and experienced technician with an assistant the right tools and
carts might be done in 4 hours. This assumes proper planning, power
staging, network staging, etc. But backups are still HIGHLY recommended.

Also you didn't say how many CABLES are conencted to all those I/O
drawers. :-)

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

www.Frankeni.com
www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 4/8/2016 3:27 PM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:

Moving the rack is not an option.
Old racks are open racks from California Chassis.
New racks are enclosed racks from APC.
There is already one dedicated for the iSeries.

Depending on the amount of down time, I'm estimating 10 hours, which we

cannot have, we may purchase new and have a new system in place.

I did get a quote from our BP.
Our current 8205-E6C is going on 5 years, so it's almost time.
I'm waiting to see the new offerings announced end of this month.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of

Rob Berendt

Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 3:02 PM
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Subject: Re: How much time would be needed to move an iSeries with the

below rack config?

I would tend to move over the old rack. I'd have to be pretty darned

enamoured with the airflow and PDU's on the new rack to do otherwise.

There's talk of us doing this same thing. Our current data center is

packed into a tiny room near the bulk of conference area, etc and they
want that and to move this data center to some other part of the building.

We did rerack everything when we went from Power 6 to Power 8 even

though they came with nice new racks. The reason being the room was just
too darn small to shift racks.

Just get a new box with all the latest hardware and stuff and

unload/reload. :-)

Rough guess: 30 minutes / unit.

Rob Berendt
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IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600

Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive

Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
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Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: "Steinmetz, Paul" <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 04/08/2016 02:48 PM
Subject: How much time would be needed to move an iSeries with

the

below rack config?
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



We're relocating are data center, 60 feet away, 2nd and 3rd quarter.
How much time do you think it would take to relocate an iSeries.
Rack details below, 15 items.
New rack in place, power ready.

Estimated times
Full System save
Power down
Un-cable
Un-rack
Move
Re-rack
Re-cable
Power up

Rack 14 in PSI Data Center 01
42 Rack 14 Switch (Catalyst 4948)
41 Firewall 14-1 (2800 Router)
40 Firewall 14-2 (2800 Router)
39 ATS 14-1 (AP7941)
38 ATS 14-2 (AP7941)
37 Fiber Switch 14-1 (300 Fiber Switch)
36
35 IBM 3573 Library
34
33
32
31
30
29
28
27
26
25
24
23
22
21 7316-TF3 6235P, Flat Panel Console Kit
20 HMC 7042-CR6 Rack-mounted Hardw.Mgmt.Console
19 7216-1U2 Multi Media Enclosure
18 5887 EXP24S SFF Gen2-bay Drawer
17
16 5887 EXP24S SFF Gen2-bay Drawer
15
14
13 P7 8205-E6C Power 740
12
11
10
9
8 5877 12X I/O Drawer PCIe, No Disk (P7 PCI Expansion

Bay)

7
6
5 5877 12X I/O Drawer PCIe, No Disk (P7 PCI Expansion

Bay)

4
3
2
1

Thank You
_____
Paul Steinmetz
IBM i Systems Administrator

Pencor Services, Inc.
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Palmerton Pa 18071

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