Re: Collecting data for article on Software Migration on new Hardware

[DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

And others charge full boat price with full boat maintenance on every 
LPAR period. They say "Your estimate of the number of shops doing LPARs 
is WAY high, we have almost no customers doing LPARs." Yep, self 
fulfilling prophecy with that pricing model...

        - Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

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On 8/19/2016 3:14 PM, Steinmetz, Paul wrote:
> One of our software vendors charges on number of activated processors, not on i5/os licensed processors.
> We have a 8205-E6C, which comes with all 8 cores activated by default.
> We only have 3 i5/os licenses, the other 5 cores all active but not used.
> We had to pay based on 8 , not on 3.
>
> This is not right.
>
> Paul
>
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> From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Berendt
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 1:12 PM
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: Re: Collecting data for article on Software Migration on new Hardware
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> Here's one from a company gobbling up others.
>
> Let's say you have multiple lpars of IBM i and an lpar of AIX on your Power box.  You activate more processors on that box.  But you allocate them to lpars other than the one running this software.  However you still have to pay for the increased processors which are allocated to any lpar of IBM i.
> Vendor:  You can put them in the same shared processor pool and if it needs it then it will grab it.
> Customer:  We can create a separate shared pool or even put this lpar into a dedicated processor and other software vendors respect that capability.
> Vendor:  We don't do that as we few that as a hassle and it limits your flexibility.
> Customer:  Well, since we're paying for all this processor can we run your software on the other lpars also?
> Vendor:  Sure.  Once you pay the lpar licensing fee also...
> Customer:  Nevermind.
>
>
>
> Rob Berendt
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> From:   Pete Massiello - ML <pmassiello-ml@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To:     "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx)"
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> Date:   08/18/2016 04:36 PM
> Subject:        Collecting data for article on Software Migration on new
> Hardware
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>
> I am writing an article on the fee that some vendors charge when you get a
> new Power Systems.  Looking to hear from people who have experiences going
> from their current hardware to new hardware AND staying in the same
> processor group.  We want to identify in the article those vendors who are
> doing it for no charge, charging a modest administrative transfer fee
> (like $250), and those who are raping the community.
>
> We want to get the community to move to the newest hardware, and many
> times the charges these vendors are charging are preventing people from
> moving forward, as well as driving people off the platform.
>
>                 Thanks for your input in advance.
>
>                 Pete
>
> Pete Massiello
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