All of this is assuming 5733OPS is loaded and PTFd.
True enough on the terminal type, that?s why I always use Putty with SSH.
It's faster to boot.
Someone commented on the system not being ready for SSH. "STRTCPSVR *SSHD"
will fix that, that's all that's normally needed.
Then start BASH and the command line and backspace and all that stuff works
much better. VI works "normally" in that environment.
I can argue that VI is awful too, however I'm looking at this in a different
way. We are trying to bring new blood into the fold. When I go to
customers and I show the network admin folks and the admins for the other
boxes that they can use the tools they know, they start to like IBM i. Even
Windows folks start to warm up to it when you show them Navigator for i.
Since most of the recent college grads I run into were taught in Linux, now
giving them a familiar interface to deal with makes the transition easier
and more natural for them.
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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects
-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roger
Harman
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 10:10 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Who knew you could do that with DSPF?
Jim,
Have you used vi in QSH? Do you do anything as far as an environment
variable before using vi? I've given up on it as I always get this: "ex:
0602-108 unknown is not a recognized terminal type".
I really haven't researched it since I have easy alternatives and <sarcasm>
vi is so much fun to use </sarcasm>. I just Cmd-21 and use edtf.
Roger Harman
COMMON Certified Application Developer - ILE RPG on IBM i on Power
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Jim
Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 5:56 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Who knew you could do that with DSPF?
While I've used the DSPF/EDTF trick with the IFS, the entire thread I was
thinking, why not just start QSH or an SSH session and use that. VI is on
the system. In my way of thinking that's way easier.
Furthermore now that Orion is actually pretty good, I find myself using that
to edit any files in the IFS rather than aforementioned EDTF (which I think
is awful actually, it does the job but yuck)
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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects
-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 6:19 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Who knew you could do that with DSPF?
I find that using 2 to edit a directory while in WRKLNK gives me some other
nice options, like recursive delete.
Can that get you into trouble? Sure. But so can DLTLIB. Should DLTLIB
force you to delete all objects from the library first? No.
Rob Berendt
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From: John Yeung <gallium.arsenide@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 05/03/2017 07:21 PM
Subject: Who knew you could do that with DSPF?
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
I have just accidentally rediscovered something Vern already mentioned as
recently as April of last year:
https://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/201604/msg00674.html
It kind of flew by as a throwaway comment, but I think it's actually pretty
significant:
You can use DSPF *instead of* WRKLNK to navigate the IFS interactively!
DSPF, when used on a directory instead of a stream file, gives you both more
and less than what WRKLNK gives you. If what you want isn't something that
you can only get through WRKLNK, then DSPF is a much, much better interface
in my opinion. More information at your fingertips, as well as sorting
options! For those of you who didn't know you could do that with DSPF, give
it a try. You'll be pleasantly surprised.
It's got its own quirks and limitations. (Like, how do you undo option
6 for a particular line? The only thing I've been able to come up with is
F5, which undoes all lines.) But despite them, I think DSPF is quite handy.
(It's also underused as a hex viewer for stream files.)
And so concludes my public service announcement for the day.
John Y.
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