RE: IBM i software keys for new P9

Years ago we created data areas to hold the serial numbers of our 2 main systems. We compare those to the SYSVAL to tell where we are.

Of course, we can now compare to the NETA and use the system name. At least -that- hasn't changed!

Paul E Musselman
PaulMmn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx


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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Steinmetz, Paul
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 12:09 PM
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Subject: RE: IBM i software keys for new P9


Yes, the good old days when IBM allowed you to MES to a new system, keeping your old system serial number, thus no key changes.
MES days are gone, same serial number for 15 years, 4 MES, 4 box swaps.

The 9406 AS/400 RISC Series Processor was our original 510. (mid 90's)
The 9406 System Unit MES # 19262 was the 510 to 640 upgrade. (2nd quarter 98)
The 9406 System Unit MES # N26616 was the 640 to 830 upgrade. (2nd quarter 2001)
The 9406 System Unit MES # was the 830 to 550 upgrade ( 4th quarter 2005)

Now, every new machine is a new serial number with new keys.

Paul

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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Christopher Bipes
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 11:02 AM
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Subject: RE: IBM i software keys for new P9

Does anyone remember the days when your IBM CE and SE came in and swapped your hardware. They moved the control panel from one system to the other, retaining your serial number. It was real easy for the customer as IBM did all the heaving lifting. They would tell you to do two backups, SAVE 21 and the SAVE STORAGE to tape. Once you completed that, they would shut down your system and do the rest.

I miss those days.


Chris Bipes
Director of Information Services
CrossCheck, Inc.

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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of DrFranken
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:52 AM
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Subject: Re: IBM i software keys for new P9

Let me clear up just a tick what Jim mentioned here.

Often companies use the 70 day 'Trial period' to do their migration.
This is not allowed. IBM Sells what is know as 'ITLs' or 'i Temporary
Licenses'. These are sold on the new server and are month by month by
processor core. When purchased they ALSO give you the right to use all
the LPPs licensed to the old box as those will be coming across.

So if you think you can migrate in one month you need one ITL for each
processor core on the new system. If it's going to take you 3 months
you'll need 3x that many.

Amazing to me how many BPs ignore this and let the customer break IBMs T&Cs.

Once you've completed the migration then you input the reduction keys
(requested by your BP as Jim mentiones) onto the old machine and within
a day you'll have the perm keys for the new system. The old system is
thus rendered useless.

If you are in the situation Rob mentioned where you're swinging fiber
cables as your method of migration then there is no system left to put
the reduction keys into!! Again discuss with your BP because IBM has a
procedure for this as well. You will simply be required to indicate that
you've migrated with this method and sign off that there is no internal
disk on the old machine and thus no operating system there to 'reduce'.
Once executed IBM will make the perm keys available to the new machine.

- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis