Don't blame IBM for the loss of MES upgrades to retain the serial number,
blame the real culprit, Internal Revenue Service, (IRS).
IRS will only allow an MES upgrade if the size of the new system is not so
big of a change in compute horsepower. With nearly a 50% improvement in
capacity the IRS forces a new serial number.
Now with the new tax law changes that is not an issue from an accounting
perspective anymore since it had to do with write offs and depreciation.
Now all that matters are the licensing for OEM software. That can hurt
depending on the OEM software vendor.
--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects
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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Steinmetz,
Paul
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 11:09 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion' <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: IBM i software keys for new P9
Yes, the good old days when IBM allowed you to MES to a new system, keeping
your old system serial number, thus no key changes.
MES days are gone, same serial number for 15 years, 4 MES, 4 box swaps.
The 9406 AS/400 RISC Series Processor was our original 510. (mid 90's) The
9406 System Unit MES # 19262 was the 510 to 640 upgrade. (2nd quarter 98)
The 9406 System Unit MES # N26616 was the 640 to 830 upgrade. (2nd quarter
2001)
The 9406 System Unit MES # was the 830 to 550 upgrade ( 4th
quarter 2005)
Now, every new machine is a new serial number with new keys.
Paul
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Christopher Bipes
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 11:02 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: IBM i software keys for new P9
Does anyone remember the days when your IBM CE and SE came in and swapped
your hardware. They moved the control panel from one system to the other,
retaining your serial number. It was real easy for the customer as IBM did
all the heaving lifting. They would tell you to do two backups, SAVE 21 and
the SAVE STORAGE to tape. Once you completed that, they would shut down
your system and do the rest.
I miss those days.
Chris Bipes
Director of Information Services
CrossCheck, Inc.
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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of DrFranken
Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2018 7:52 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: IBM i software keys for new P9
Let me clear up just a tick what Jim mentioned here.
Often companies use the 70 day 'Trial period' to do their migration.
This is not allowed. IBM Sells what is know as 'ITLs' or 'i Temporary
Licenses'. These are sold on the new server and are month by month by
processor core. When purchased they ALSO give you the right to use all the
LPPs licensed to the old box as those will be coming across.
So if you think you can migrate in one month you need one ITL for each
processor core on the new system. If it's going to take you 3 months you'll
need 3x that many.
Amazing to me how many BPs ignore this and let the customer break IBMs T&Cs.
Once you've completed the migration then you input the reduction keys
(requested by your BP as Jim mentiones) onto the old machine and within a
day you'll have the perm keys for the new system. The old system is thus
rendered useless.
If you are in the situation Rob mentioned where you're swinging fiber cables
as your method of migration then there is no system left to put the
reduction keys into!! Again discuss with your BP because IBM has a
procedure for this as well. You will simply be required to indicate that
you've migrated with this method and sign off that there is no internal disk
on the old machine and thus no operating system there to 'reduce'.
Once executed IBM will make the perm keys available to the new machine.
- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis
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