Re: Visual Studio code convert to **free

OK, everyone - James knows he is likely to start a religious war with his original comment. He's chosen what he has chosen, it serves him well for what he wants to do. And I might be mistaken, but I think, James, you might be the only developer on your application.


I agree with him that the cycle afforded amazing capabilities, shortcutting many things we have to do in free-form. For many of us, the cycle no longer serves our purposes, for others of us, it's very useful.


Nobody is going to win in this thread - and I think it doesn't matter for most people. And in this case, that has to be OK, methinks!


Regards
Vern


On Thu, 14 Mar, 2024 at 2:49 PM, Glenn Gundermann <glenn.gundermann@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


To: midrange systems technical discussion

James,

I think you'd be out-voted.
There is no way there should be any cycle programs in existence anymore.
We're classified as dinosaurs because of this legacy.

Yours truly,

Glenn Gundermann
Email: glenn.gundermann@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:glenn.gundermann@xxxxxxxxx>
Cell: (416) 317-3144



On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 at 14:35, James H. H. Lampert via MIDRANGE-L <
midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

On 3/14/24 11:20 AM, Vance Stanley via MIDRANGE-L wrote:

Seems wrong to code using features from the 60's like the cycle.

. . .

Theres something to be said about writting code that can be
maintenanced by others.

*shrug*

To me, it seems wrong to ignore (and forcibly suppress) a built-in DO
UNTIL loop that can either give you a ride through an entire file, or
serve (with LR slaved to KC) as an event-loop for an interactive program.

And it's not MY fault that new programmers are not being trained to use
the most unique and idiomatic features of languages, simply because
they're old (and/or because they're unique to the language). All they
have to do, in order to understand how a *simple* Cycle program (by
which I mean, no secondary files or level breaks, just riding through a
primary file) is RTFM.

By way of analogy, this whole business of expecting one programming
language to look like another that is fundamentally different (and
vendors pandering to this expectation) seems an awful lot like an
amateur organist sitting down at the Harvard Flentrop, and playing it as
if it were the "Teenie Genie" in his or her living room.

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JHHL
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