RE: Re:choosing an OS and getting comfy with a new pc -- PCTECH

John,


>...but if you can read court documents, it's all in there. 
>...let's put a bunch of hooks into the API's so that our software runs 
>faster and our competitors will have to use the slower hooks

I have read the court documents (well, ok not all of them, but a good
number) and it always amazes me that maby of the APIs that the non-MS
vendors are complaining about I know about. 

Why do I know about them, well because I subscribe to MSDN, I read MSDN Mag
(MSJ) I look at the .h files for windows in the SDK, etc. MS does actuially
document a good number of their so-called "hidden" APIs and those that they
don't document have been well documented (for example all the kt* kernel
APIs) by third parties. If other organizations are too lazy/stupid to avail
themselves of the information available about windows it's not microsoft's
fault.  

Now I grant, MS may create new APIs that are better/faster/cheaper than
earlier APIs and then use them in their applications, but there is nothing
that stops a cometitor from using the API too. Sure, they may need to
rewrite an entire section of code to use that API, but so did MS, it's just
that MS is willing/able to spend the time and money to do the rewrite and
others aren't.

>We can drop all support for Java and remove the JVM from our site

Actually, SUN forced that in their Java suit. MS couldn't distribute it's
own JVM anymore. However, I believe you'll find that Java is supported on
Windows to this day. Why should MS allow itself to be a download portal for
Sun? Do you expect CNN to provide links to MSNBC? Perhaps you feel that if I
search BurgerKing's site for a BigMac their site should say, "oh, that
McDonalds burger, click here." 

-Walden

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Brandt Sr. [mailto:pgmr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:29 AM
To: 'PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users'
Subject: RE: [PcTech] Re:choosing an OS and getting comfy with a new pc


No. MS wouldn't intentionally change the OS to prevent people from using a
competitor's package, would they? 
hhmmm.... let's put a bunch of hooks into the API's so that our software
runs faster and our competitors will have to use the slower hooks... we can
put it out as a new OS... we will call it... hhmmm... "our extra fast
product"... no... too long... how about XP?... That works... 
Ut oh... The Judge was told about our hooks... Ok... We will let some of our
competitors who pay us thousands of dollars to access some of the code to
find the "good hooks" in the API's... and take out what the Judge was told
about... but not those he wasn't told about... 
Let's see. We can drop all support for Java and remove the JVM from our
site... Oh no... we have to wait for that terrible Judge who says we are a
monopoly to be overturned... Ok... Now let's do it... It's been 24 hours...
we'll call it.... hmmm.... dot net...
Geeezzzzz people. Does it take a bigger hammer to get through to some of
you? 
I know it's thousands and thousands of pages... but if you can read court
documents, it's all in there. 
John Brandt 


-----Original Message----- 
From: Scott Johnson [mailto:sjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:35 AM 
To: 'PC Technical Discussion for iSeries Users' 
Subject: RE: [PcTech] Re:choosing an OS and getting comfy with a new pc 



> You aren't actually implying that MS would release something that 
> intentionally disabled/disrupted Java, are you? Maybe I'm a little too 
> pro-MS, but that's a rather far out conspiracy idea. 
> 
Wouldn't put it past them.  Actually I think something like this has been
talked 
about in the press/trade mags.  Don't remember the details though.  Hey,
even 
IBM does it(FAST400?).  Atleast they warn you that it may disable some
software. 
-- Scott Johnson 
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