|
And how do you handle the exceptions, e.g. connection loss, unattended
closes, bug fixing, debug?
I know, for all of them are solutions available, but never as easy like
green screen development.
-------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
Von: Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx>
Datum: Fr., 18. Apr. 2025, 17:21
An: RPG programming on IBM i <rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Betreff: Re: IBM i 7.6 Development tools
The web design gives you a wide range of options, a black and white
web
page takes less time than DDS to design and it looks a little better
than
green screen.
It can later be made prettier without changing the program.
As for the speed, writing the CGI in RPG is very fast.
The web got a reputation of being slow because of screen scrapers,
php,
java, PC in between, and other options.
As for data input out of the office, it is much easier to find devices
with
a browser than with a green screen.
Any celular phone can be used, connected everywhere, it can read bar
code,
QR, upload sound, pictures, etc.
El jue, 17 de abr de 2025, 17:21, Steve M via RPG400-L <
rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
> What Vern has written at the end of his post is the truest of all -
> everyone is right and everyone is wrong.
>
> Having been around a long time, in many different industries, I will
> suggest that one industry to the next, and even one department
within
a
> company to the next, will favor one or another.
>
> Look at retail - so much of the software on the platform is written
to
the
> green screen. However, once you move to the back-office, HR and
such
would
> like a pretty GUI interface over their parts. Transportation is
another
> example - dock operations traditionally wants a green screen for
speed
of
> response, whereas, dispatching desires a pretty GUI since their data
will
> be interfacing with routing software.
>
> To mandate one or the other could, and would, be adversely received
by
> different individuals in different functional departments based upon
how
> they utilize the system.
>
> Arguing over UI is just another version of "best tool for the job"
and
not
> that just because you as a developer want to write pretty GUI and
not
green
> screen (sorry that you need to be multi-faceted) and provide the
user
the
> experience that best suits their needs. Put aside your
developmental
bias
> and remember what we do isn't for our sake or use.
>
> Yet again, just one man's thoughts.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RPG400-L <rpg400-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of
Vern
> Hamberg via RPG400-L
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2025 15:00
> To: rpg400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Vern Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: IBM i 7.6 Development tools
>
> Raul
>
> I have long felt that a graphical interface (browser or something
like
> Visual Basic or C#) is slower for heads-down data entry, since it is
> primarily eye-driven - for it to be otherwise requires careful
design,
as
> you suggest. Use of the mouse is a visual thing - 5250 with good
screen
> design is like touch-typing, with newlines and tabs, your navigation
is
> mechanical.
>
> I think both of us might be as right as the other, as wrong as the
other,
> I am not comfortable with an all-or-nothing statement about these
things -
> not even mine!
>
> *Regards*
>
> *Vern Hamberg*
>
> IBM Champion 2025 <cid:part1.qzrobm6X.OmlXclFy@centurylink.net>
CAAC
> (COMMON Americas Advisory Council) IBM Influencer 2023
>
> On 4/17/2025 2:25 PM, Raul Alberto Jager Weiler wrote:
> > For heads-on data entry the web is faster. You should add some
> > javascript, and design your forms to be used without a mouse.
> >
> > El jue, 17 de abr de 2025, 16:17, Justin
Taylor<jtaylor.0ab@xxxxxxxxx>
> > escribió:
> >
> >> True, although in 2025 any job where 5250 is the right tool is a
job
> >> you probably shouldn't be doing (e.g. heads-down data entry).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 2:02 PM Patrik Schindler<poc@pocnetnet>
wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Raul,
> >>>
> >>> Am 17.04.2025 um 18:40 schrieb Raul Alberto Jager Weiler <
> >>> raul.jager@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>
> >>>> IBM I is a great web server.
> >>>> You don't need interactive.
> >>> Just because you have hammer, not everything has suddenly
become a
> nail.
> >>>
> >>> Use the right tool for the job.
> >>>
> >>> :wq! PoC
> >>>
> >>>
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