Cheri, thank you so much for the straight forward explanation.  This has 
really helped tremendously.
Last question... I'm currently using WDSCi V 6.0. and I've tried both HATS 
and Webfacing on our Development Box.  Our current application has some 
system screens built into it that can't be WebFaced.  I would like to try 
out the combined product (WDHT).  As a developer is there WDHT client for 
iSeries that I need to get or is there simply an add-on or something for 
WDSCi??
John.
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Ok, I see, the actual transformation is done within the Web application,
not on the iSeries.  Thank you.
Ok, the way I understand it is for WebFacing you have to have 3 
components
running.
1.  A Web Server (doesn't have to be on the iSeries)
2. An HTTP Server (doesn't have to be on the iSeries)
3.  WebFacing Server (Only piece that has to be running on the iSeries)
It would seem then that if you want to use WDHT then you actual iSeries
part is the same as for WebFacing by itself without HATS.
One last question.
What exactly do I need to get for WDHT?
Pete did a good job of explaining why you don't need anything on the 
iSeries 
for HATS and from your response it looks like you are understanding it. 
There is a java jar file that is part of a HATS application that does all 
of 
the work.
WDHT is actually the new name for HATS.  History is you used to have to 
buy 
a separate license for HATS and WebFacing you needed no license.  Then 
they 
came up with WDHT to start to merge the 2 together someone.  Development 
wise you still have 2 WDSc perspectives.  WebFacing applications no longer 
take up interactive cycles and haven't even in the non-liscensed version. 
However they could not transform screens on the fly.  Once you get a WDHT 
license then when you WebFace and application you no longer need to 
convert 
each and every screen in a WebFaced project.  If you forget one or choose 
not to include one in the WebFaced project the HATS type of technology 
will 
take over and transform it on the fly.  Or in the case of system screens 
or 
third-party app screens these can now be included in the WebFaced 
application.  For prior and new HATS applications it is now covered under 
WDHT and if you are on V5R3 or higher and have certain PTF's applied(sorry 
I 
don't have the list handy right now) then your HATS applications will no 
longer take up interactive cycles.
The reasons for why to use one verses the other now depends.  Before more 
people tried out webfacing because if they liscensed their RPG 
compile(Websphere Studio etc) the had webfacing and could now run these 
application without a license.  But that is changed and once V5R4 is no 
longer supported and you upgrade to the next release of the operating 
system 
you will need a license for your Webfaced applications.  The best thing is 
to take you application and see how good HATS transforms your screens.  I 
have seen some apps that have alot of popup windows have trouble being 
transformed with HATs and you end up doing alot of work.  But you can 
check 
this out by creating a HATS app and not doing alot and going to your 
screens 
to assess the situation.
WebFacing you need the source and there are some differences here and 
there. 
The look a how a screen gets transformed in a WebFacing application that 
is 
not included in your WebFaced app where the WDHT takes over....although it 
says it matches your WebFace applications look and feel is not alway 
true.... you have to look at it for yourself and make the decision.  This 
technology is evolving and I am sure it will get better.  The good news is 
that you have the capability to look at it and preview it because you have 
2 
licenses in the development WDSc tool to you can run these and get an idea 
of how things will look and how much work you will have to do for 
customization.
HTH
Cheri
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