Re: [WEB400] Re: CGI URL

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So did the first RPG training you received cover buffer overflow?  I am
guessing not.  Is the person(s) who taught you RPG at fault for not
teaching
you that?, in your opinion they are.  My point is that you as a person get
to go through the struggles of learning the RPG language.  Through that
time
you will develop opinions of what is important and what is not.  There are
many many things that could be said about what Stone, Cozzi, Coulthard,
Farr, etc. . . have left out of their books.  Unless the book says
"Comprehensive Guide" on it you shouldn't treat it as such.
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I've resisted this thread, but have gotten drawn in.

Hans you're right.    Brad you are right.

Hans,  the code review process that you go thru and testing that You go
thru(writing compilers for IBM for customers paying Millions of $$'s )
would stop all development in most shops.

You are also correct about the need of accuracy in the explanation of a
subject.    But Brad has also did a great service to alot of RPG people by
,  as Aaron said
" I found that the e-RPG book got me up and running in no
time with the basics that I needed to know to start CGI programming with
RPG.  "

Should there be a Manual, or Reference guide to show all the idiosyncrasies
of things like CGI programming?  Of course yes.
(BTW, Daniel,  many have said that Bob Cozzi's first book Modern RPG was a
rehashing of the RPG Reference manual -;) no offence Bob).

So,   Hans there is a place for(and an audience for)  information on a
subject that doesn't go into the n'th degree about a subject.

And be humble because,   Gee,  I seem to remember those WONDERFUL  RPGII
1/2 examples in the SYS/38 and AS/400 RPGIII manual.   Should we pick one
of those things up and point out what a wonderful job they did teaching
millions of programmers HORRIBLE RPG techniques?    I never saw one IBM
example say (for instance)   "Hey, watch that Z-ADD with those overflows "

Hans you have to think like you do for the place you work and the code you
write.   The wizards in websphere studio for example cannot afford to build
error prone code for the user.

However do not confuse that level of coding and it's associated
documentation and instruction with the fact that  for  a good many people
"a little bit of learning"  is a good place to start, then after that more
extensive, etc.

So you are both right.   (and IBM did write the WORST examples of RPG ever
written.   )

John Carr
RDLMAO