RE: XML, RPG, Web Services, Joe = Holy War was ->RE: [WEB400] Re : Modify the IE Browser

["Bartell, Aaron L. (TC)" <ALBartell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>You knew I knew those terms, but you were being cute.

You accused me of using buzzwords so I spelt out everything in that sentence
for _anybody_ (not necessarily you) that didn't know what the heck I was
talking about.  I do not pride myself on making myself sound better than I
actually am, I just want to dispel that right now.  Maybe it was a little
tongue in cheek but nonetheless I was accused of using words that are not
common knowledge. 

<Joe>
So, you are willing to be sarcastic, but when someone disagrees with
you, you get all huffy about it.  The phrase that comes to mind is "can
dish it out, but can't take it."  Thicken up that skin, kiddo, or else
don't try to be cute.

The other phrase is "don't run with the big dogs...", but I think I'll
just sign off now.
</Joe>

The skin that you are asking me to form shouldn't need to come about.  This
is a community of people who genuinely care about whether or not somebody
gets their broken program fixed or somebody that can't find the information
that they have been searching for.  I don't spend 3 nights a week
programming at home just so I can get rich (I haven't gotten a dime from my
open source efforts), I think I have something to offer this group and from
the responses I get a lot of people are thankful to me for taking the time
to put stuff online.  

It becomes really hard to justify that when you come in and throw your
weight around.  I have no problem being questioned and I also have no
problem admitting that I am wrong, but you are not immediately concerned
about anybody except for yourself.  What I mean by that is the way you state
things is completely inappropriate for somebody of your status.  I would
expect screw ups from younger punks like myself but for crying out loud Joe,
you claim that you have worked for all of these companies and developed all
of these great things but you posses very little qualities one would find in
a refined leader.

Many of us respect your knowledge and we agree with a lot of what you have
to say, but that is only part of the package.  Take a look at how the likes
of Buck Calabro and Barbara Morris make their point and share their
knowledge.  They do it with an incredible amount of patience and through
reading many of their emails I have found their information to be very sound
and  professional.  You will never find them teaching the masses with the
inappropriate methods you have chosen.  It is easy to learn from leaders
like that.

If I need to be taught, TEACH ME!!!!!  If you can't teach then let somebody
else do it, because there are many capable individuals on these lists that
can!

That is all I have to say,
Aaron Bartell

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Pluta [mailto:joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:43 AM
To: 'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'
Subject: RE: XML, RPG, Web Services, Joe = Holy War was ->RE: [WEB400]
Re: Modify the IE Browser


> From: Bartell, Aaron L. (TC)
> 
> Teach us rather than trying to make yourself look better at our
> expense.  I think it is great that you have made a lot of
accomplishments,
> but that doesn't mean much to the rest of us if we can't get around
your
> personality and share your knowledge.  I am not saying you should pee
> perfume, but you don't take the role of a leader very well.
> 
> I don't mean the above as an attack, but something needs to be said.

Pretty silly words from someone who said the following:

HTTP - HyperTextTransferProtocal
XML - eXtensible Markup Language
RPG-CGI - Report Program Generator-Common Gateway Interface
Web Services - A program available through HTTP communication that uses
XML as its data transport.

You knew I knew those terms, but you were being cute.

So, you are willing to be sarcastic, but when someone disagrees with
you, you get all huffy about it.  The phrase that comes to mind is "can
dish it out, but can't take it."  Thicken up that skin, kiddo, or else
don't try to be cute.

The other phrase is "don't run with the big dogs...", but I think I'll
just sign off now.

Joe

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