Re: Vendor presentations -- WEB400

Joe,

Just to keep things straight and accurate I did not say "RPG-CGI is superior 
to Java".  While I have my own opinions on the subject that is not what I 
said in my post.

What I did say was the following:

" People when given the choice of developing in CGI or Java, based on our 
experience, 95% of those iSeries users have selected ILE RPG-CGI. This
is based on our experience of 1,200 iSeries sites making that choice."

This is not saying that either is superior.  With WebSmart people have the 
choice of either, plus AJAX, and more. In addition, my statment said that 
people prefer to develop in ILE RPG-CGI over Java, based on our experience 
of over 1,200 iSeries installations, for the following previously stated 
reasons:

"Why such a big lean towards CGI?  Our experience: Numerous RPG based 
development shops find it easier to get their web applications to market, 
they're more comfortable with ILE RPG-CGI than they are with Java, they can 
preserve their existing iSeries back end system investment and they can keep 
their existing staff who know their business and systems involved in the 
development of their new web systems.  I can go on, however, I'll stop 
here."

Joe, people can retarget to Java in the future if they so chose if they 
chose. Just wanted to keep what was being said about my comments straight 
and accurate.

Best regards,

Eric


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Pluta" <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Joe Pluta" 
<joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Web Enabling the AS400 / iSeries'" <web400@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WEB400] Vendor presentations


Jim, I'm not taking anyone to task.  Eric's statement was, as you've
indicated, a vendor response to a specific question which has historically
been acceptable here in David's lists.

The only part I objected to was when he started enumerating the reasons why
RPG-CGI is superior to "Java".  Among my many reasons is that a JSP Model II
approach uses almost zero Java; certainly nothing more complicated than what
most web solution vendors use in their own JavaScript.  But to go into that
particular discussion in the same thread as the vendor's product has a
tendency to turn the thread into a discussion of the product rather than the
architecture.

Anyway, enough said.  No offense meant, just wanted to clear up my position.

Joe

> From: Jim Franz
>
> Joe - I posted the response for Eric after Bob's statements left it
> unclear
> as to who owned which product. At the time he was not properly registered
> on the list. The words are Eric's, but I made it clear
> that a sales pitch is not allowed. I do beleive that other vendors,
> including yourself,
> have made statements defining their products, and defining major
> differences. I've learned
> a lot from previous posts by yourself and others when studying products.
> To indicate a product generates java vs rpg is not a sales pitch by just
> that statement
> of fact.