Re: Ruby On Rails on the iSeries

[Jerome Hughes <jromeh@xxxxxxx>]

if you're a non-programmer, there's little chance you'll get very far  
with Rails, imo, and if you do, by then you're a programmer

there's a lot for a programmer to learn in there

--Jerome

cool with the philanthropy, not so with the ruthless disregard for  
others used to collect the means - at least he's headed toward a balance

who's more in touch, Ballmer or dhh?

On Aug 17, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Tom Jedrzejewicz wrote:

> Joe ...
>
> DHH may be an outrageous, outspoken, obnoxious dude, but I don't  
> see that
> being relevant.  RoR does seem to be a powerful platform.  I abhor  
> Bill
> Gates' politics, but use his products.
>
>   I thought the criticism was funny coming from you, given that you  
> are
> pretty outspoken yourself.  As an example, I point to the eloquent  
> note in
> support of Mr. Barsa which you wrote recently.
>
> On 8/17/06, Joe Pluta <joepluta@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > If I'm not a professional programmer, there's a real good chance  
> > it would
> > be
> > better to buy a cheap data entry and analysis package.  Could you  
> > imagine
> > if
> > a research study on cancer went awry because a non-programmer cobbled
> > together something in Ruby and made a mistake?
>
>
> The fault wouldn't lie with RoR (or Excel or MS Access or VB.NET)  
> but rather
> with the non-programmer getting in over his/her head, and the  
> oversight of
> that non-programmer.
>
> How many of us have seen huge business decisions made based on data  
> reported
> in Excel, and wondered how the accountant who created the spreadsheet
> verified the data and the formulas/macros in the spreadsheet?
>
> This trend of designing programming tools to for non-programmers is  
> a little
> > frightening if you examine it closely.  I mean, there's a REASON  
> > why you
> > can't just mix together your own potions and sell them as patent  
> > medicine.
>
>
> So don't use it.  Doesn't your tool make it easier for a person not  
> familiar
> with (whatever) to develop systems that use (whatever)?  I am not  
> sure I see
> the difference?
>
> Some businesses may use these platofrms, and accept the risk that  
> goes along
> with having applications developed by someone other than IT.
>
> Caveat emptor!
>
> --
> Tom Jedrzejewicz
> tomjedrz@xxxxxxxxx
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